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The Jews publicly declared economic war on Germany on March 24, 1933. Note that this is six years before the start of World War II, and before Hitler even leads Germany!


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Only four days later, Hitler responds in a speech to the German people.

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"The Communist and Marxist criminals and their Jewish-intellectual instigators, who, having made off with their capital stocks across the border in the nick of time, are now unfolding an unscrupulous, treasonous campaign of agitation against the German Volk as a whole from there....

Lies and slander of positively hair-raising perversity are being launched about Germany. Horror stories of dismembered Jewish corpses, gouged out eyes and hacked off hands are circulating for the purpose of defaming the German Volk in the world for the second time, just as they had succeeded in doing once before in 1914." -- Adolf Hitler, March 28, 1933 speech source

Already, the Jews were spinning outrageous tales of horror against the German people, tales that were completely fabricated. Hitler points out that the Jews did the same thing (defaming the Germans) during World War I. And as we know, they will do it again on an even grander scale during World War II with the Holocaust Hoax.

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To understand Hitler's reaction to the Jewish declaration of war, it is vital to understand the critical state of the German economy at the time. In 1933, the German economy was in a shambles. Some 3 million Germans were on public assistance with a total of 6 million unemployed. Hyper-inflation had destroyed the economic vitality of the German nation. Furthermore, the anti-German propaganda pouring out of the global press strengthened the resolve of Germany's enemies, especially the Poles and their hawkish military high command.

The Jewish leaders were not bluffing. The boycott was an act of war not solely in metaphor: it was a means, well crafted, to destroy Germany as a political, social and economic entity.

The simple fact is that it was organized Jewry as a political entity - and not even the German Jewish community per se - that actually initiated the first shot in the war with Germany.

Hey, this isn't what we are taught in school! Something is not right here, and I think it is what we've been taught in school.

Note also that the goal of the Jewish community declaring economic war on Germany was to destroy the German nation and all her people. Could it be that the Holocaust Hoax was the way the Jews falsely accused their opponents of their own malfeasance, as sociopaths tend to do?

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The attacks on Germany did not cease. The worldwide Jewish leadership became ever the more belligerent and worked itself into a frenzy. An International Jewish Boycott Conference was held in Amsterdam to coordinate the ongoing boycott campaign. It was held under the auspices of the self-styled World Jewish Economic Federation, of which famous New York City attorney and longtime political power broker, Samuel Untermyer, was elected president.

Upon returning to the United States in the wake of the conference, Untermyer delivered a speech over WABC Radio (New York), a transcript of which was printed in The New York Times on August 7, 1933.

Untermyer's inflammatory oratory called for a "sacred war" against Germany, making the flat-out allegation that Germany was engaged in a plan to "exterminate the Jews." He said (in part):

Samuel Untermyer wrote:
...Germany [has] been converted from a nation of culture into a veritable hell of cruel and savage beasts.

We owe it not only to our persecuted brethren but to the entire world to now strike in self-defense a blow that will free humanity from a repetition of this incredible outrage....

Now or never must all the nations of the earth make common cause against the... slaughter, starvation and annihilation... fiendish torture, cruelty and persecution that are being inflicted day by day upon these men, women and children....

When the tale is told... the world will confront a picture so fearful in its barbarous cruelty that the hell of war and the alleged Belgian atrocities pale into insignificance as compared to this devilishly, deliberately, cold-bloodedly planned and already partially executed campaign for the extermination of a proud, gentle, loyal, law-abiding people...

The Jews are the aristocrats of the world. From time immemorial they have been persecuted and have seen their persecutors come and go. They alone have survived. And so will history repeat itself, but that furnishes no reason why we should permit this reversion of a once great nation to the Dark Ages or fail to rescue these 600,000 human souls from the tortures of hell....

...What we are proposing and have already gone far toward doing, is to prosecute a purely defensive economic boycott that will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends.

...We propose to and are organizing world opinion to express itself in the only way Germany can be made to understand....


Untermyer then proceeded to provide his listeners with a wholly fraudulent history of the circumstances of the German boycott and how it originated. He also proclaimed that the Germans were bent on a plan to "exterminate the Jews":

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The Hitler regime originated and are fiendishly prosecuting their boycott to exterminate the Jews by placarding Jewish shops, warning Germans against dealing with them, by imprisoning Jewish shopkeepers and parading them through the streets by the hundreds under guard of Nazi troops for the sole crime of being Jews, by ejecting them from the learned professions in which many of them had attained eminence, by excluding their children from the schools, their men from the labor unions, closing against them every avenue of livelihood, locking them in vile concentration camps and starving and torturing them without cause and resorting to every other conceivable form of torture, inhuman beyond conception, until suicide has become their only means of escape, and all solely because they are or their remote ancestors were Jews, and all with the avowed object of exterminating them.


Untermyer concluded his largely fantastic and hysterical address by declaring that with the support of "Christian friends... we will drive the last nail in the coffin of bigotry and fanaticism...." -- source

Here we can see how the foundation for the Holocaust Lie was already well constructed in 1933. Germany was painted as the vicious exterminator of the Jews six years before World War II started. And it was nothing but a LIE! The Jewish leaders had declared war on Germany and sought to "render it harmless", sociopath double-speak for exterminating the German people. In other words, with the Holocaust Lie that evolved from these foundations, the Jewish leadership was accusing its opponents of its own malfeasance, as sociopaths are want to do. And it was lying shamelessly, irresponsibly, and on a massive scale, also as sociopaths are want to do. World War II was primarily about exterminating the German people, and it was primarily orchestrated by Jewish leaders and sympathizers. And the history of that conflict was written by the victors, meaning those very same Jewish leaders and sympathizers who were deceiving and manipulating like hard-core sociopaths right from the very beginning. No wonder the real history is not allowed to see the light of day! No wonder historical revisionists are imprisoned and told by the judge that "the truth is no defense"!

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“Under the vicious B.C. Human Rights Code truth is no defense, fair comment is no defense, which it is in libel and slander, and within the framework of the code there is no right to appeal.” -- source

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Lying was standard operating procedure at the pinnacles of power and control in 1945. It still is. The pinnacles are where sociopaths rule, after all, and sociopaths deceive and manipulate as routinely as the rest of us breathe. The lies then have to be maintained (repeated) for a while until they eventually become established as "fact". After that, it is very unlikely they will ever be overturned. The patsy "assassins" of JFK, RFK, and MLK are examples in my lifetime, as the history books will never be changed to correct what really happened. The true story is too convoluted and complex for dumbed-down students to understand anyway, unfortunately.

The Holocaust Lie is probably the biggest and most damaging lie of WWII, but there are lies galore to choose from. Like Hitler committing suicide in his bunker - LIE. How about Heinrich Himmler committing suicide with cyanide after being captured? Would it be a surprise that that too was a LIE?

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This was Heinrich Himmler on the floor, most wanted man in the world, Chief of the Nazi SS. Head of the dreaded Gestapo, Lord of the Concentration Camps, Architect of Mass Murder, whose orders had sent millions on millions of men, women and children to their death in gas-chambers and camps, before "extermination squads" in "guinea-pig" experiments, and by every device of torture known to devilish human ingenuity.

He was probably responsible for the death of more people than any other man in history -- not hot-blooded massacre, but cold-blooded, inhuman extermination of fellow human-beings, just as a herd of cattle is wiped out because it has foot-and-mouth disease. -- source

Whoa, now that's some over-the-top propaganda there! And if it should come out that all of that unflattering condemnation was just propaganda, that wouldn't look too good for the Allies who were spreading it, now would it? Maybe Himmler should be killed immediately on capture so that there is no embarrassing court process which might let the real truth leak out.

It appears that is exactly how sociopath Winston Churchill saw it.

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"Further to my orders we successfully intercepted H.H. last night at Lüneburg before he could be interrogated. As instructed action was taken to silence him permanently. I issued orders that my presence at Lüneburg is not to be recorded in any fashion, and we may conclude that the H.H. problem is ended."

Bruce Lockhart significantly noted on this telegram, "copy to PM" -- i.e., to Churchill -- "May 25". -- source

One confirming account of the Himmler murder comes from Doug Collins while talking to Ernst Zündel:

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From 1946-1950, Collins worked as a political intelligence officer with the British Control Commission’s de-nazification department in Germany.

You may have read that Himmler bit into a cyanide capsule the Hitler government provided for high echelon officials if worst should come to worst. I did. That is the orthodox story, widely believed.

Now Doug told Ernst that in his capacity as intelligence officer in the employ of vengeful Allies, he was an eye witness to a different scenario. Himmler had been beaten to death, and Doug was shown the body.

I found this story shocking and asked: “Who did it? The Brits?” and Ernst replied, “… no – those who worked for them.” -- source

Poor old Ernst Zündel. I saw his picture today taken after his release from Mannheim prison in Germany where he served three long years for exercising free speech exposing the Holocaust Lie. The trauma of prison is marked on his face. It was very sad for me to see that trauma, as this was injustice on an extreme scale. 6 million Jews exterminated in Nazi gas chambers is a far greater injustice, except it didn't happen. Zündel going to prison for correctly exposing the Holocaust Lie, that did happen, and that makes all the difference.

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Howard Bloom, author of The God Problem and The Lucifer Principle, is a very smart human being. But that is no protection against brainwashing. When you are taught falsehoods at a very young age by people you trust, you accept those falsehoods as fact. They are incorporated into your world view, and they impact your efforts to make sense of the world. Those false beliefs can pass from generation to generation with the greatest of ease, taking on a life of their own, blinding countless people and entire societies. Blinding even an entire species. Religion illustrates this principle quite well. "Blinding" is not quite the right word however, for that implies a complete lack of vision. There are many ways that actual vision can be degraded without going completely blind -- astigmatism, myopia, glaucoma, color blindness, macular degeneration, etc. There are even more ways for the mind to be degraded, and none of us are able to escape significant impairment of the mind due to false beliefs.

Howard Bloom wrote:
Germany's reigning ideology, its new religion, was Nazism. Nazism was a powerful recruitment strategy. It grabbed the lowest levels of the animal brain. How? By blaming all the world's problems on a people too small and helpless to fight back -- the Jews. A big-picture ideal with enormous appeal. Ultimately, the Nazi worldview would lead to the death of six million Jews in concentration camps. -- The God Problem, page 402

Even Howard Bloom, for all his intelligence, education, experience, and inquiry, is a victim of impaired mind development.

There's no evidence that Nazism "grabs the lowest levels of the animal brain". That's pure BS, a consequence of sustained propaganda brainwashing Howard's young mind. The Jews are not "too small and helpless to fight back". That's pure BS as well. The economic war they waged against Germany certainly refutes that claim, and the global impact of the Holocaust Lie on all of humanity definitely puts that utter nonsense to bed. The Jews have enormous power far in excess of their proportion in the population (less than 1%), much like sociopaths do. And I suggest that is no coincidence. You can even look at Israel, a tiny nation of segregated Jews that bristles with sophisticated armaments and dominates the world political stage. America is its obedient Pit bull. Israel is literally the tail that wags the entire dog. And the six million dead Jews in concentration camps? More BS, as so many serious investigators have exposed, much to their personal detriment. But does the real truth bring down the powerful Jewish nation? Hell no! They have the power to stifle dissent, silence detractors, censor information, bribe leaders, and brainwash minds. They have the power to rewrite history and recast the truth. They determine the perception of truth, with little to no regard for what the truth actually is. They literally blaspheme truth, like when they assert that they are too small and helpless to fight back, or that they are an unjustly persecuted people, or that 6 million of them were exterminated in Nazi gas chambers. Or that they are God's chosen people. And we've been taught that taking God's name in vain is blasphemy. It is nothing compared to blaspheming truth. And that is a perfect example of how the sociopathic mind can and does turn Truth on its head.

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In its broadest outlines, “the Holocaust” can be defined by means of its three primary elements, which I shall designate here as hypotheses (h1), (h2) and (h3):

(h1) that Hitler was attempting to exterminate the Jews and succeeded by putting around 6,000,000 to death;

(h2) that many of those deaths were brought about by the use of a form of cyanide gas in chambers for that purpose; and,

(h3) that the chemical agent that brought about those deaths was Zyklon B, to which the victims were subjected.

The science of the Holocaust does not leave any room for doubt about (h2) and (h3), since laws of biochemistry and of materials science—laws which cannot be violated and cannot be changed—entail that the bodies of those who are put to death using cyanide turn pink, while the walls of chambers used for that purpose would turn blue. But none of the bodies from those camps has been reported to have been pink; and examination of the “gas chambers” has determined that none of them turned blue. Which means that (h2) and (h3) are not simply false but have been scientifically refuted. -- source

And it should come as no surprise that (h1) is also quite false, as we have shown in this thread with supporting evidence.

A hoax has been perpetrated upon the entire world, and it has been defended in the strongest terms for over 70 years. The importance of this hoax must therefore be of great significance to some interested party. The identity of that interested party is quite well known. The psychology of that interested party is less well known, but should not be. Sociopathy has been extensively investigated, thoroughly documented, and routinely corroborated and confirmed. Individuals can be sociopathic, and groups of individuals led by sociopaths can also be sociopathic, even when the majority of individual members in the group would not be considered as sociopaths. I believe that is exactly what we are dealing with concerning this "interested party", or group. It is sociopathic. It has lied boldly, shamelessly, and repetitively. It hides certain information, keeps secrets, and acts with deliberate deception. It does not accept responsibility for its behavior. It is arrogant and angers quickly when challenged. When angered, it accuses its opponents of its own malfeasance -- racial and religious discrimination, hate, persecution, inequality, and injustice. It displays all the major traits of the sociopath and does so repetitively and consistently. It does all this in the pursuit of power and control over others, for whom it has no empathy, only disdain. It is morally impoverished, and its behavior is repulsive to normal people. It is fundamentally evil.

Jim Fetzer wrote:
The situation is completely absurd. No subject generates responses as extreme and irrational as what has come to be known as “the Holocaust”. Unlike any other event in human history, including even the most sacred religious beliefs, for anyone to question, dispute or deny its occurrence qualifies as “a hate crime,” where Holocaust denial is even a prosecutable offense in certain jurisdictions. -- source

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Nicholas Kollerstrom wrote:
We here try to develop a conversation on this theme, concerning what has to be the deepest, most fervently held belief of our present-day civilization. I say there cannot be a happy future for humankind, so long as this nightmare delusion that people call “The Holocaust” remains in place. This sacred and holy belief, so fervently held and yet undiscussable – the only thing today taught in schools both in history and religion lessons – will hopefully soon exist only in the museum of yesterday’s superstitions. -- source, page 21

It is truly amazing that my search for truth (which started with me asking where our money comes from and who decides how much of it there is) has led me to exactly the same point -- the monstrous lie of The Holocaust.

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In our time, the sheer extent to which “Holocaust survivors” have been claiming cash from Germany has been progressively undermining the primal myth on which the whole story has been based. The totemic figure of Six Million Jews is real, as being the best estimate of the total number of Jews who have applied for financial reparations from Germany on the grounds of being a “Holocaust survivor.” I believe it is now indisputable that the number of these claimants greatly exceeds the number of Jews that
ever lived in nations under German control in World War II – even though the exact numbers themselves remain ever-elusive, as if the authorities were wishing to prevent them emerging into the light of day. These “survivors” who claim to be living testimonies to the Holocaust are, as Robert Faurisson has pointed out, by their sheer numbers more like living testimonies that it never happened. -- source, page 23

Yes, there's a money angle to the Holocaust story, but that's not what brought me to investigate this perversion of history. It was the pursuit of truth that brought me here. Someone I respected had to first tell me that the Holocaust was a lie. I didn't believe it, so I had to research it for myself. And that was all it took to discover how badly I had been fooled.

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Oh My God! :shock: The Americans were exterminating Jews in gas chambers just like the Nazis!! :o

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The American army used Zyklon, once the typhus epidemics started to arrive around 1942. A 1921 report in the New York Times titled “New Delousing Plant” described how immigrants infected with typhus were treated on Hoffman’s Island, New York. Their clothing was gassed with cyanide gas using their equivalent of Zyklon, while the immigrants had their hair cut off and were put through showers; then their clothes were returned. It was the same process. -- source, page 54

Oh, wait. The Americans were delousing immigrants just like the Nazis did to laborers housed in the concentration camps. It was the accepted technology of the time for dealing with epidemics spread by lice and other bugs.

Boy, we really were stupid to fall for that ridiculous propaganda piece, i.e. six million Jews exterminated in gas chambers by evil Nazis!

Wait, you're telling me we are still falling for it to this day, and that the belief is essentially enforced by law in most European countries?

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What about all the "eye-witnesses" of the Holocaust?

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Rassinier entitled his first book The Lies of Odysseus in commemoration of the fact that travelers always return bearing tall stories, and until his death he investigated all the stories of extermination literature and attempted to trace their authors. He made short work of the extravagant claims about gas chambers at Buchenwald in David Rousset's The Other Kingdom (New York, 1947); himself an inmate of Buchenwald, Rassinier proved that no such things ever existed there (Le Mensonge d'Ulysse, p. 209 ff). Rassinier also traced Abbe Jean-Paul Renard, and asked him how he could possibly have testified in his book Chaines et Lumieres that gas chambers were in operation at Buchenwald. Renard replied that others had told him of their existence, and hence he had been willing to pose as a witness of things that he had never seen (ibid, p. 209 ff). Rassinier also investigated Denise Dufournier's Ravensbrück - The Women's Camp of Death (London, 1948) and again found that the authoress had no other evidence for gas chambers there than the vague "rumours" which Charlotte Bormann stated were deliberately spread by communist political prisoners. Similar investigations were made of such books as Philip Friedman's This was Auschwitz: The Story of a Murder Camp (N.Y., 1946) and Eugen Kogon's The Theory and Practice of Hell (N.Y., 1950), and he found that none of these authors could produce an authentic eye-witness of a gas chamber at Auschwitz, nor had they themselves actually seen one. Rassinier mentions Kogon's claim that a deceased former inmate, Janda Weiss, had said to Kogon alone that she had witnessed gas chambers at Auschwitz, but of course, since this person was apparently dead, Rassinier was unable to investigate the claim. He was able to interview Benedikt Kautsky, author of Teufel und Verdammte who had alleged that millions of Jews were exterminated at Auschwitz. However, Kautsky only confirmed to Rassinier the confession in his book, namely that never at any time had he seen a gas chamber, and that he based his information on what others had "told him". The palm for extermination literature is awarded by Rassinier to Miklos Nyiszli's Doctor at Auschwitz, in which the falsification of facts, the evident contradictions and shameless lies show that the author is speaking of places which it is obvious he has never seen (Le Drame des Juifs européen, p. 52). According to this "doctor of Auschwitz", 25,000 victims were exterminated every day for four and a half years, which is a grandiose advance on Olga Lengyel's 24,000 a day for two and a half years. It would mean a total of forty-one million victims at Auschwitz by 1945, two and a half times the total pre-war Jewish population of the world. When Rassinier attempted to discover the identity of this strange "witness", he was told that "he had died some time before the publication of the book." Rassinier is convinced that he was never anything but a mythical figure. Since the war, Rassinier has, in fact, toured Europe in search of somebody who was an actual eye-witness of gas chamber exterminations in German concentration camps during World War Two, but he has never found even one such person. He discovered that not one of the authors of the many books charging that the Germans had exterminated millions of Jews had even seen a gas chamber built for such purposes, much less seen one in operation, nor could any of these authors produce a living authentic witness who had done so. Invariably, former prisoners such as Renard, Kautsky and Kogon based their statements not upon what they had actually seen, but upon what they "heard", always from "reliable" sources, who by some chance are almost always dead and thus not in a position to confirm or deny their statements. -- source

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Wait, who is the Rassinier? Some kind of anti-Semite? A Jew hater? A Nazi? A fan of Hitler?

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Without doubt the most important contribution to a truthful study of the extermination question has been the work of the French historian, Professor Paul Rassinier. The pre-eminent value of this work lies firstly in the fact that Rassinier actually experienced life in the German concentration camps, and also that, as a Socialist intellectual and anti-Nazi, nobody could be less inclined to defend Hitler and National Socialism. Yet, for the sake of justice and historical truth, Rassinier spent the remainder of his post-war years until his death in 1966 pursuing research which utterly refuted the Myth of the Six Million and the legend of Nazi diabolism. -- source

I've noticed this tendency towards "faith" in many human beings. We hear something and parrot it as true, just because others are saying it. We have faith that others would not deliberately lie to us. And that faith is usually well placed, for most people would not deliberately lie to us. But what if those others have just accepted what they have heard on faith as well, and what they have heard is not true, but they don't know it's not true? In that case, couldn't a vast majority of people end up believing a falsehood?

"An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers." -- Amanda Bloom

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Internal British intelligence correspondence in August 1943:

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A letter by Cavendish-Bentinck complained that “The Poles, and to a far larger extent the Jews, tend to exaggerate German atrocities in order to stir us up,” and explained:

“As regards putting Poles to death in gas chambers, I do not believe that there is any evidence that this has been done. There have been many stories to this effect, and we have played them up in P.W.E. (Psychological Warfare Executive) rumours without believing that they had any foundation. At any rate there is far less evidence than exists for the mass murder of Polish officers by the Russians at Katyn.”

He added, “I think that we weaken our case against the Germans by publicly giving credence to atrocity stories for which we have no evidence. These mass executions in gas chambers remind me of the story of rendering of human corpses during the last war for the manufacture of fat, which was a grotesque lie...”

As a result of this statement, the telegram was sent off from the Foreign Office to Washington the same day, copied to Moscow, requesting that no allusion be made to “gas chambers” regarding German atrocities in Poland. In other words, as David Irving rightly observed:

“As late as August 1943 the head of the P.W.E. minuted the Cabinet secretly that despite the stories they were putting out, there was not the slightest evidence that such contraptions existed.” -- source, page 102-103

So the Allied war propaganda departments are actively putting out rumors about German extermination camps where lethal gassing is occurring, when among themselves, they privately communicate that there is in reality no evidence to support their own deliberately distributed rumors!

Is it any wonder that regular people truly believed in Nazi gas chambers under these conditions?

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With the Holocaust Lie, the Jews have laid the framework for their next persecution.

Not all the Jews, of course. Not all the Jews support the Holocaust Lie with the same stubborn determination. Just as the most sociopathic Jews tend to rise to the top and set group policy, so too do the most saintly Jews tend to distance themselves from that very same group policy and live out quiet, isolated lives.

And note that it will be their "next" persecution. The persecution is repetitive. It's a cycle. It is built into their religion, their philosophy, and their psychology. You could say it is built into their race, if you think you can identify the Jews as a race. I don't see them as a race, but they do trend towards being a homogenized group.

The history of the Jews that they so willingly hang their hat on is that of a persecuted people. Over and over again, they wail that they are persecuted. But that persecution didn't originate in a vacuum. It originates from the concepts of right and wrong. A large group of people isn't persecuted for doing good deeds. They are persecuted for doing bad deeds, and doing them as a group. Among sociopathic individuals, bad deeds include lying, deceiving, withholding critical information, manipulating, having no shame for hurtful actions, taking no responsibility for the harm they cause, behaving arrogantly, acting selfishly, conspiring greedily, and hiding their true intentions. Can a group of people do that as well? You bet. ( 1 2 3 )

The Holocaust Lie is a monstrous deception that has caused great harm to humanity. It is a very bad deed. Germans have been tortured for it, both literally and figuratively. Revisionist historians and other truth-seekers have been imprisoned and had their lives ruined for simply questioning it. Ordinary people have been deceived, manipulated, and subordinated to the Holocaust Lie. It is an enormous crime, and the persecution of those people behind the crime will not be gentle. It will be like turning them out into the desert for 40 years. But even that didn't work. The punishment was ineffective. What was intended as a corrective measure was twisted around by those being punished into a "persecution". Banishment was twisted into an "exodus". Earlier attempts at correction were called "enslavement". And the whole debacle was called "God's Plan for His Chosen People".

It is the nature of sociopaths to twist the facts to their benefit and shout them from the mountain tops. "Twist and shout." Where have we seen that before? Oh, right.

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