I just read GW's farewell and saw the link you posted Andy.

You know how I said I didn't have a problem with you......well I have a huge problem with what you did here.

I strongly suggest that you and Chico discuss removing these posts.

This goes beyond the pale and is just wrong.

I don't give a shit how much someone pisses you off....this is wrong.

And if you guys don't see that.......

Canzirka is absolutely correct in her admonition of Andywight's posting of personal information on TH. His invasion of my privacy was part of an ad hominem attack which could be mitigated on that fact alone. After all, sticks and stones may break my bones but ... ad hominems are merely to bait me.

But his pursuit of another fellow member ... and Strenia's followup posting of personal info extracted from Andywight's Stasi-style tactics of information gathering ... are nothing more than witchhunts into the private life and sanctuary of a fellow member.

I created a poll to address the issue idling on the border of truthseeking and privacy. I encourage all members to cast their vote. If United People is going to survive as a community and a sanctuary for truthseekers, then the membership cannot afford to be silent on this issue.

Thank you.

yES i CHANGED THE INFO HERE BECAUSE i CAN

Ive never met a Banana I did not like.....

The additional information you've uncovered is indeed incorrect and merely another attempt at character assassination. But you couldn't know that. You are working from a position of incomplete information. So is Zook, Andy, Truthunter, and all the other members of this forum, including me.


That is correct, and it's true about all of us here, including me. Though you will have trouble believing it, it also includes you. I believe there is a blog or two put together by Steve_A and GypsyWoman that illustrates how easily fooled people are on these forums. I suggest that we all study them. Perhaps someone could post the link to them.


You are wishing the wrong people luck. If the forum is going to be wrecked, it will be wrecked by the members working together.


No doubt that happens. The forum is just a microcosm of the real world.


Precedent was set right from the beginning. At UP, the people rule. If they are incapable of governing themselves, UP will destroy itself. Where have we seen that before? Oh, right. The forum is just a microcosm of the real world.


Look deeper. You see the same things you always see because you are brainwashed to see them. We all are. That's the point. We need to snap out of it.


That's exactly what we are fighting here -- the same old behavior patterns. Watch and learn, people. You are being played.

Do to this decision process, we now have a very divided forum.

I suggest we put up posts for sociopaths and non-sociopaths to reply to.

Nice summary again Chic,
A main fulcrum in this, its the lack of insight people have of themselves and the damage this incurs. Specifically TH and Zook.
Their actions have shown inconsistencies and trying to cover up these inconsistencies.
The probability that this is unconscious is high for some, low for others.

So the good shepherd has to compensate this with vigilant consistency, deal with the manipulated mob, continue to communicate reason, avoid traps and get limited support in this endeavor.

I have misjudged the UP landscape and have to adjust my pace to cross this Kingdom....

What we have here is no debating of the minds but rather of battling against that which is not of flesh and blood. You should know that Mag.

Don't be so sure than Chico is in you demented camp, for his searching has already proven to be light years beyond your own.

TH, I think your cognitive dissonance is systemic to your inability to integrate what is Spirit and what is Material.

I dont assume Chic is in my camp.

And you navigating where or what the truth is in this situation is an exhibit of Folly itself....