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Wrapping up the prologue.

The end of the recording begins the discussion of sociopathy in earnest, starting with a multiple-classes quantitative Bell Curve modeling (and analysis) that seems to have set Chico scrambling to discredit me and, paradoxically, claim credit for himself in a wiggle space he created some years ago when he very generally - without analysis - used the concept of the Bell Curve in a discussion of psychological natures.

When Zook fleshes out the details in a Bell Curve modeling of psychological natures, it's utter nonsense; of course, when Chico barely alludes to the Bell Curve in a superficial discussion about psychological natures, it's sheer brilliance.

You have to love the asymmetry in credit and analysis; if that's what floats your boat.


Pax

You are the master of the fallacious straw man argument, Zook. Fleshing out the details of bell curve modeling is not utter nonsense, if you tell the truth! When you use those details to paint half the human population as sociopaths, then you fall into utter nonsense, and you deserve to be publicly paddled for your deception. And you were paddled. I know it stings, but it's for our own good.

Your use of bell curve statistics to push utter nonsense reminds me of a famous quote: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." Your lying is of a more subtle nature, and falls more in line with the type of lying the better sociopaths employ, which is lying with the truth. This requires more guile, more scheming, greater intelligence, and better game-playing. Because you use threads of truths to weave your deception, plausible deniability is built in. You can point to selected threads and claim to be telling the truth, while the overall cloth is a clever lie.

This is the way the top sociopaths at the top of the human hierarchy control the majority of us. Because lying is risky business, sociopaths also rely heavily on withholding information. For example, they say nothing about chemtrails, even though the evidence is visible to anyone who looks up at the sky on a clear day and can remember how skies used to look decades ago. Lying, meaning deception, has become an art form for the ruling sociopaths, and I hate to see you follow in their footsteps.

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I explore the Bell Curve (as it applies to psychological nature distribution) in earnest. There are many ways to model the Bell Curve for the topic of sociopathy. I will elucidate my preferred modeling in the next segment.


Pax

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This is the 7th segment on the series on sociopathy.

My preferred modeling of the Bell Curve to understand the distribution of psychological natures is elucidated in detail. I categorize the population in the middle between -1 std and +1 std and explain that this population represents the normal population. It's a dynamic population that responds primarily to environmental influences. If the environment has a surfeit of sociopathic qualities, then this dynamic population internalizes the sociopathy; and if a surfeit of empathic qualities are present in the environment, then there's an internalization of empathy. That sorta thing. Outside this dynamic normative population, we have different static populations that respond less to the environment and manifest behavior primarily as a reflection of genetic imperatives.

The key thing to note is that the normative population exhibits both sociopathic and empathic behaviors. Which begs the question, if such a large percentage of the population (~68%) exhibits both sociopathic and empathic behaviors, then what does it mean to pursue MRI imaging of brains, let alone attempting to disqualify individuals from leadership positions based on MRI imaging?

IMO, the claims made by the MRI-imaging crowds (e.g. to identify sociopaths) are not significantly different from the claims made by the pioneers of psychiatry, e.g. the frontal lobotomists. The latter tortured a lot of innocent people before they were found out to be charlatans, and in some cases, patients waiting to be diagnosed themselves.

The 8th segment will be recorded shortly.

Pax

Wow, that's one hell of a stretch: a painless brain scan to a lobotomy!

A painless brain scan that is supported with evidential material to provide:

a) all individuals a recognition of the level of empathic markers in the people surrounding them, be it family, friends, work colleagues - and of course most importantly global political and elite leaders that direct the course of evolution for humanity, (which at the moment equates to devolution of humanity with our current, and historical, sociopathic trend);

b) a supportive sociological format that provides informative instruction/guidance on the differing psychological levels and how to utilize skill sets by repositioning rather than ostracizing; whilst providing powerful, valuable [humane] leverage for removing sociopaths from governing leadership positions;

c) inspires research into humane/non-violent methods for changing neurological/cellular structures; humane as it would be governed and directed by ethical leadership.

Or, a lobotomy which is basically a form of capital punishment with a time delay on a corpse.

My poor Zook... If only you knew what you were talking about. The amount of damage you do with your BS analyses is a crying shame, but shame is not an easy one for you, n'est-ce pas.

You clearly haven't looked into how the brain scan tests are done. The test I posted about back at Nexus involved test subjects observing photos flashed on a screen. The photos were carefully selected for the emotional response they typically elicited, and were only visible for about a half second or so each with a blank pause between photos. The functional brain reaction to the images was recorded within the typical reaction time period. The timing with which this was done was very short, so that the brain reaction was automatic and not under the subject's conscious control.

The large percentage of the population falling within one standard deviation of the mean (68%) would have consistently similar brain scan images. They are the normative base used for comparison to the outliers. The outliers, those outside of two standard deviations from the mean (outside 95% of the population), and particularly those at the sociopathic extreme end of the bell curve (only 2.5% of the population) showed consistent but markedly different brain scan images. It was easy to distinguish the scans of the known sociopaths from the normative base. They visibly lacked brain activity in large areas of the brain known to be involved with empathetic emotional response, unlike the normative base of test subjects.


And therein lies the problem -- your opinion. Your opinion drawing on ridiculous comparisons like the one to "frontal lobotomists" is simply garbage. You should be ashamed, but instead you prance about on stage trying to impress us with your clever "moves" exactly like a conceited sociopath would be want to do.

But please continue, Zook. Your instruction is of great value, just not in the way you envision.

Of course, the important comparison being advanced was quackery, not pain ... to the point, the quackery of lobotomy in sorority with the quackery of MRI bran imaging (as a means of understanding sociopathy). Both apparent sciences suffer from insufficiency. Both apparent sciences advance conclusions far beyond what the evidence holds. And, IMO, both apparent sciences are being advanced by proponents of popular psychology who have more in common with day dream believers, homecoming queens, and snake oil salesmen than with real science.

Of course, fMRI brain imaging is painless ... no one's arguing that ... what is being argued is that fMRI brain imaging does not support the conclusions being made by its proponents.



Apparently you don't understand the evidence or you wouldn't be making the above statement.

Here are three links that reject the claim of "evidential material" (as it pertains to fMRI brain imaging) ... that essentially state that MRI brain imaging for sociopathy is in its very primitive investigative stages and that we shouldn't extract any greater conclusions than that.

http://www.lovefraud.com/2012/05/26/an- ... ociopaths/

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That gets me to a recent article that received a great deal of news coverage. In one Fox News article were comments from experts who in the past I have criticized for irresponsible public comments. The article discusses data from a study published in a top journal, it doesn’t give the title but it is, The Antisocial Brain: Psychopathy Matters a Structural MRI Investigation of Antisocial Male Violent Offenders.

The title should say, “the degree of psychopathy matters”. When you see stories like this you have to watch out because my colleagues have rotating definitions of psychopathy that they pull out depending on what they need to fit their data. In some studies like this one, they use a cut-off high PCL-R score. In other studies they separate offenders into groups depending on whether or not they show empathy and remorse. So groups may contain the same PCL-R score but be defined in terms of differing symptoms.

The study basically showed that higher scores on the PCL-R are associated with a higher likelihood of finding a shrunken “emotional brain”. Before you go writing me asking that your ex be forced to undergo an MRI which will prove the presence of psychopathy, let me tell you what is not in the news article. You cannot use an MRI scan to diagnose psychopathy.

A diagnostic test has to be sensitive, meaning that it picks up your ex and everyone else with the condition. Well we already know that there is mild, moderate and severe. So do we want the test to pick up the mild or the severe group? That will depend on what your ex actually scored on the PCL-R. I am sure that a “mild” case of psychopathy, does not make for a good life partner. That is why for the purposes of Love Fraud any comparison between “ASPD” and psychopathy is meaningless.

A diagnostic test also has to be specific meaning that only psychopaths show the abnormality. There is no test for psychopathy that is sensitive and specific enough to be useful. This article only shows us the obvious, that very high levels of psychopathy are more likely to be related to observable changes in the brain than are lower levels of psychopathy.

Since the brain produces behavior, their brains have to be different. The behavior they produce is different. All of the thugs who attacked my student to steal “without conscience” have something wrong with their brains.
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http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/05/11 ... 38540.html

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The researchers used magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to scan the brains of 44 violent offenders diagnosed with ASPD. Crimes committed included murder, rape, attempted murder and grievous bodily harm. Of these, 17 met the diagnosis for psychopathy (ASPD+P) and 27 did not. Those that met the antisocial personality disorder but did not meet the psychopathy criteria (via the Psychopathy Checklist) were referred to as the ASPD-P group by the researchers. They also scanned the brains of 22 healthy non-offenders.

The study found that ASPD+P offenders displayed significantly reduced grey matter volumes in the anterior rostral prefrontal cortex and temporal poles compared to ASPD-P offenders and healthy non-offenders.
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https://www.technologyreview.com/s/4077 ... bout-evil/

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James Blair, head of the National Institute of Mental Health’s Unit on Affective Cognitive Neuroscience, believes that a dysfunctional amygdala affects the frontal cortex. In just-completed studies of psychopathic brains, to be published late this year or early next, Blair’s fMRI scans show that a lack of normal activity in the amygdala is mirrored in the frontal cortex. He believes that the amygdala forwards the wrong signals to the frontal cortex.
Still, some scientists say that this focus on the amygdala is too simplistic. “I’m not sure if the amygdala is the core of the problem,” says Joshua Greene, assistant professor of psychology at Harvard University. Greene says that while the amygdala may be “one of the areas compromised,” the affected part of the brain might be different in different patients. Greene has not studied psychopathic patients, but he has used fMRI to look at the brains of people as they make moral decisions. He has found that either an emotional center or a reasoning center may play the dominant role, depending on the kind of moral decision being pondered.
Of course, not everyone demonstrating these brain abnormalities ends up a killer. Some individuals with limbic underactivation end up in heroic professions, becoming firefighters, police officers, or fighter pilots, possibly because of a reduced fear response and a need for strong emotional stimuli. One theory is that other triggers, such as severe childhood abuse or neglect, are needed to turn people with already suppressed emotions into cold-blooded killers.

And of course not all killers are psychopaths. Thomas Lewis, a psychiatrist who has extensively studied the research on psychopathy and who specializes in the neurochemistry of depression at the University of California, San Francisco, describes an extraordinarily rare condition in which a nonpsychopathic person can become a “rampage killer.” This individual starts out severely depressed, traumatized, and suicidal, a condition that could be caused by anything from genetics to a brain tumor. Then some perceived crisis causes him or her to snap and go on a killing spree before taking his or her own life. “It’s kind of like throwing a temper tantrum–only with automatic weapons,” says Lewis.
Using neuroscience to understand seemingly evil acts of violence is still in its very early days. Indeed, diagnosis and prediction of killing behavior are far off into the future, if at all possible. But many brain researchers see enormous potential in the new imaging work. “We’ve always regarded psychopathy as completely untreatable,” says Blair. “This could absolutely change that.”
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As we can see, the peerage of research scientists also contains a healthy share of detractors (of MRI brain imaging techniques to understand sociopathy). These detractors forewarn of the misuse of fMRI brain scanning by their more ambitious less scientific peers.

The first and third links are self-explanatory. The second link reveals that out of 44 case studies of violent criminals, 17 were diagnosed with (ASPD+P); while 27 had ASPD only.

The proposed solution being advanced by Chico and his apprentice, Gemma, is to identify (ASPD+P) and remove this batch from positions of management and authority. Yet we find that the greater number (and problem) are not the (ASPD+P)s, but rather, the ASPDs who are responsible for 27/44 percent of the violent crimes. And here's the rub, the ASPDs have similar MRI brain scans to healthy non-offenders. Say what??!!


As we can clearly see, even if Chico's (and Gemma's) convictions are real, namely, that removing those with abnormal MRI brain scans from positions of power in society will greatly reduce the corruptions and evil ... we are still unable to detect the 27/44 percentage of ASPDs, because this potentially evil lot have brain scans that are more or less indistinguishable from healthy non-offenders. So the claim is not supported even if the conviction is to be congratulated.



Read above. The three links I provided are just the tip of the iceberg of the science that is not being reported by those who are invested in the agenda of MRI brain scanning as a means to identify sociopaths/psychopaths. These proponents of change want change as we all do, true enough. Unfortunately, the proponents want to cut corners and sweep science under the rug, put a coffee table over the rug, then litter the table with all kinds of popular fiction: popular fashion; popular politics, popular science, popular psychology, etc.



Your conviction is to be applauded. Your science needs to be upgraded.



It's a brave new world that attempts change without understanding the roots of the status quo. Psychology has been with us since the dawn of human time, both good and bad psychology. By contrast, the push for full spectrum global dominance has arrived only recently - in a blip of human time - and this push coincides with the secretive, sinister, predominantly tribal Rothschild bankster organization.

Extensively-organized Rothschild Zionism is responsible for the current global hierarchical power pyramid ... and as non-popular psychology researcher Philip Zimbardo discovered in his Stanford Prison Experiment (in 1971), hierarchy is the source of most evil(s).



In short, the Rothschild bankster organization - and hierarchy - wants to perpetrate calculated evil(s) in the duty of maintaining heavily-concentrated power in the hands of the elite few ... at the same time, they want the rest of us to assume culpability for the aforementioned evil(s), e.g. by pointing to psychology as the source of the evil.

This legerdemain is being supported by both unwitting and complicit minions.


Pax

Jesus Christ, Zook! Do you have to be such an idiot!? You don't even comprehend the significance of what you are pulling off the Internet in your hasty searches!

There is a difference between MRI and fMRI. Know the difference! Of course MRI cannot diagnose psychopathy!


Can you see your foolish errors, Zook? Or do I have to rub your nose in your BS?

If I were you, I'd crawl under a rock and never come out again. But lacking shame and taking no responsibility for your errors, you would never even consider such a thing, huh Zook. No, you'll be contemplating your next defensive move, like the sociopath you are.


I may have to add this enormous gaffe to your busted thread. Really Zook, shame on you.

Show me where I argued that MRI and fMRI are the same? You can't. And precisely because while my links mentioned both imaging techniques, my arguments only mentioned the lack of science in brain scan imaging without singling out either technique as being better or worse than the other. That is your own calculated distortion and gatekeeper caterwauling, e.g. to avoid discussing the actual contents of the links I mentioned. None of the links discussed the differences between fMRI and MRI ... in kind, none of my arguments discussed the differences either. But you would have the readers believe that the differences are meaningful to what was actually being discussed. Typical Chico trying to pied pipe the people off onto a side track.




Listen up, Chico, you supercilious pseudo-authorative pop-psychology sycophant.

I did not make any distinctions between fMRI and MRI ... and precisely because distinctions do not matter. Both are crude attempts at trying to identify sociopathy in the individual by studying brain scans.

And because I made no distinctions, the distinctions that you point out are not part of my argument. Indeed, you ignored my arguments altogether because you could not refute the three links I provided; or my specific analysis wrt the 27 ASPD offenders (of the total offending class of 44) who have brain scans that are similar to normal healthy nonoffenders.

Instead of addressing the salient point that I made, you put up a non sequitur about differences between fMRI and MRI, and are trying to attach this non sequitur to my arguments. Ignore the content; pursue an orthogonal course.
Par for the course for a gatekeeper like yourself, Chico.

Once again, both fMRI and MRI are examples of brain scan magnetic resonance imaging. Different imaging techniques, but that's beside the point ... for these techniques are not being mentioned here with regards to their variability, but with regards to the accuracy of their respective outputs. Neither technique is currently accurate.
The 27 ASPD offenders proves that MRI imaging has no valid conclusions to offer wrt identifying sociopaths. Ditto for fMRI imaging at the other link I provided.

Of course, that has not stopped cupids and quacks from promoting brain MRI/fMRI imaging as a valid means of identifying sociopaths, contrary to the observable lack of science.


Pax

ps: Once again, physiological or functional MRI (fMRI) versus structural or anatomical MRI ... is not an important distinction because neither the anatomy of the brain nor the physiology of the brain is well understood in relation to psychological nature. That is the first red flag.

ps2: I do thank Chico for drawing attention to the difference between physiology and anatomy. His first real contribution to the debate is much appreciated. *sarcasm* In any event, thanks to Chico, I'll be more careful when using the terms fMRI and MRI in the future. If there is one thing I learned while debating Chico over the years, is that he'll find even the smallest wiggle room available - even create wiggle rooms from thin air - and then commit to occupy them.

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In this 8th segment, I recap my preferred modeling of the Bell Curve distribution of psychological natures which maintains a dynamic central normative class between +1 std and -1 std (68% pop.) ... and 4 static classes on either side. I discuss MRI imaging of brains in more detail and expose the paucity of science involved.

In the 9th and probably final segment on sociopathy (unless some more discussion is needed), I will try and illustrate the normative dynamic class and the 4 static classes (on each side) with examples of individuals I've met in my life, both in real life and on the internet, and too, with examples of famous people and characters that we are all familiar with.

I notice that Chico is now an administrator at Inphinet forums.

*Zook raises a glass of Stella to toast the inauguration of Inphinet forum's new poobah ... then lifts and guzzles the whole keg to celebrate the invention of tupperware.*



Pax