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While watching a documentary in French about Dresden, a British military officer in the second half gives his justification for the horrific war crime that the massive fire-bombing of Dresden represents. He basically says you have to view it in the proper context, as Hitler was massacring 11 million Jews in Europe at the same time!

Of course, Hitler was doing no such thing. That outrageous lie was the deception of the ruling Jewish sociopaths needed to manipulate the public into serving the purposes of those same morally insane sociopaths. Even 70 years after the war, the lie of the Holocaust is still rigorously maintained to continue fooling the world into mindless submission. As Vincent Reynouard can testify, any historian attempting to correct the faulty information we are constantly led to believe will be imprisoned for simply trying to reveal the truth. It's really beyond belief, yet this is the world of deceit we live in.

The officer's testimony begins at 34:00 in the video below (narrative in French -- sorry).



Le bombardement de Dresde, 13-15 février 1945

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He (Tesla) was the man who gave us most of our electrical systems still in use today and yet Edison is the famous one. Someone with a lot of power did not want this technology known and to this day we are still using wires to transfer electricity around the world. We live in a slave culture and even though the technology exists to end hunger and poverty we are still operating like we don't (possess it). I do not understand why any human being would want to oppress the majority of the population just so they have someone to lord over. It doesn't make sense to me. -- May 2016 YouTube comment from tomb613 (source)

This is the common sentiment of the non-sociopath (a person with empathy) who does not understand what sociopaths are and how their psychology leads them to behave. I think this sentiment is very significant, as well as representative of the mentality of the Followers, who represent some 80% of the human population. The Followers assume everyone is like them, possessing empathy, and so the direction chosen by their sociopathic leaders just doesn't make any sense to them, if they manage to see past the façade the sociopaths use to justify those directions. And that is why the façades work so well, because the more truthful explanations don't make any sense to the majority of humans. Their starting premise, that everyone is like them and feels empathy for others like they do, is just plain wrong.

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He (Tesla) was the man who gave us most of our electrical systems still in use today and yet Edison is the famous one. Someone with a lot of power did not want this technology known and to this day we are still using wires to transfer electricity around the world. We live in a slave culture and even though the technology exists to end hunger and poverty we are still operating like we don't (possess it). I do not understand why any human being would want to oppress the majority of the population just so they have someone to lord over. It doesn't make sense to me. -- May 2016 YouTube comment from tomb613 (source)

This is the common sentiment of the non-sociopath (a person with empathy) who does not understand what sociopaths are and how their psychology leads them to behave. I think this sentiment is very significant, as well as representative of the mentality of the Followers, who represent some 80% of the human population. The Followers assume everyone is like them, possessing empathy, and so the direction chosen by their sociopathic leaders just doesn't make any sense to them, if they manage to see past the façade the sociopaths use to justify those directions. And that is why the façades work so well, because the more truthful explanations don't make any sense to the majority of humans. Their starting premise, that everyone is like them and feels empathy for others like they do, is just plain wrong.


More blathering from our resident self-professed expert on sociopathy (whose precision psychometric tools have previously identified Hitler as an empath).

If Chico genuinely knew anything about psychology, and sociopathy in particular, he would not be equating nonSociopaths with people with empathy. Not having sociopathy is not a sign that a person has empathy. The autistic person is a prime example. The indifferent person is another example. The recluse is yet another example.


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Not having sociopathy is not a sign that a person has empathy. The autistic person is a prime example. The indifferent person is another example. The recluse is yet another example.

Is that the level of argument you have been reduced to, Zook? :face:

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Not having sociopathy is not a sign that a person has empathy. The autistic person is a prime example. The indifferent person is another example. The recluse is yet another example.

Is that the level of argument you have been reduced to, Zook? :face:


My level of argument is still a Colorado rocky mountain peak higher than your level of rebuttal, Chico.

I wonder what you'd do if this guy ---> ( :face: ) <---- wasn't around to extricate your ass from many a lost argument?


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My level of argument is still a Colorado rocky mountain peak higher than your level of rebuttal, Chico.

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According to Emory psychologist Scott Lilienfeld and his colleagues, a psychopath displays a paradoxical personality type. They’re charming, articulate, and fearless, yet at the same time they’re self-centered and they show no sense of empathy or remorse as they repeatedly violate the rights of others. The serial killer is perhaps the prototypical psychopath, and, to be sure, plenty of psychopaths end up behind bars serving long sentences. Lilienfeld and colleagues dub these “unsuccessful psychopaths.”

When psychopathy is mixed with a high degree of intelligence and a strong ability to delay gratification, the result is a ruthless, Machiavellian type whose path to power is paved with the dashed dreams and broken bodies of countless others. Yet “successful psychopaths” are too clever to ever get punished for their crimes. On the contrary, they often reach the highest echelons of business, government, military and law enforcement, even professional sports. -- source

The general public, when they even have an idea of what a sociopath is, typically identifies the "unsuccessful sociopath" as the personality type representative of a sociopath. The “successful psychopaths” who reach "the highest echelons of business, government, military and law enforcement, even professional sports" pretty much remain invisible and unidentified.

That's why we have two mainstream candidates for president of the United States, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, who are hard-core sociopaths, and the public cannot even see it.

The next president of the United States, like most prior presidents, will be a sociopath, and the nation will continue its descent into depravity, tyranny, and moral insanity.

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You might well think there’d be safeguards against psychopaths rising to power in a constitutional democracy such as ours, but you’d be mistaken. Lilienfeld and his coauthors report on a personality analysis of the first 42 presidents, which found that success in the White House was strongly correlated with the traits of the successful psychopath. These traits can also be found among current contenders for the presidency, especially those high in the polls. -- source

"Strongly correlated" means most of our presidents were sociopaths, but we have no means to actually prove it, since a definitive test for sociopathy is not available to the public. And no wonder, our leaders would never allow such a test.

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Last night a friend showed me an astounding article about the life of a well-known celebrity and the ghostwriter who helped make him into a celebrity. The ghostwriter is journalist Tony Schwartz. The celebrity is presidential candidate Donald Trump.

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If he were writing “The Art of the Deal” today, Schwartz said, it would be a very different book with a very different title. Asked what he would call it, he answered, “The Sociopath.” -- source

I was particularly struck by how this article illustrated the primary characteristics of a sociopath. I'm going to list quotes from the article of those sociopathic characteristics (as seen in Donald Trump), along with a title of the sociopathic trait being illustrated.

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Lies with ease:
But, as he watched a replay of the new candidate holding forth for forty-five minutes, he noticed something strange: over the decades, Trump appeared to have convinced himself that he had written the book. Schwartz recalls thinking, “If he could lie about that on Day One — when it was so easily refuted — he is likely to lie about anything.”

Projects a false image:
Many Americans, however, saw Trump as a charmingly brash entrepreneur with an unfailing knack for business—a mythical image that Schwartz had helped create.

Lack of responsibility:
“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

Full of themselves:
The problem was Trump’s personality, which he considered pathologically impulsive and self-centered.

Attention whore:
“I was shocked,” Schwartz told me. “Trump didn’t fit any model of human being I’d ever met. He was obsessed with publicity, and he didn’t care what you wrote.”

Does not really listen:
But the discussion was soon hobbled by what Schwartz regards as one of Trump’s most essential characteristics: “He has no attention span.”

Easily bored:
Even when Schwartz pressed him, Trump seemed to remember almost nothing of his youth, and made it clear that he was bored.

Superficial:
Week after week, the pattern repeated itself. Schwartz tried to limit the sessions to smaller increments of time, but Trump’s contributions remained oddly truncated and superficial.

Full of themselves:
...it’s impossible to keep him focussed on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes...

Does not really listen:
“That’s why he so prefers TV as his first news source—information comes in easily digestible sound bites.” He added, “I seriously doubt that Trump has ever read a book straight through in his adult life.” During the eighteen months that he observed Trump, Schwartz said, he never saw a book on Trump’s desk, or elsewhere in his office, or in his apartment.

Manipulator:
“He was playing people,” Schwartz recalls. On the phone with business associates, Trump would flatter, bully, and occasionally get mad, but always in a calculated way. Instead of saying goodbye at the end of a call, Trump customarily signed off with “You’re the greatest!”

Full of themselves:
Schwartz kept a journal in which he expressed his amazement at Trump’s personality, writing that Trump seemed driven entirely by a need for public attention.

Lies with ease:
“Lying is second nature to him,” Schwartz said. “More than anyone else I have ever met, Trump has the ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true, or sort of true, or at least ought to be true.”

Shameless:
Schwartz says of Trump, “He lied strategically. He had a complete lack of conscience about it.” Since most people are “constrained by the truth,” Trump’s indifference to it “gave him a strange advantage.”

Easily angered when challenged:
When challenged about the facts, Schwartz says, Trump would often double down, repeat himself, and grow belligerent. Whenever “the thin veneer of Trump’s vanity is challenged,” Schwartz says, he overreacts — not an ideal quality in a head of state.

Game-player:
“I try not to take any of what’s happened too seriously,” Trump says in the book. “The real excitement is playing the game.”

Lack of empathy, pursuit of power:
In his journal, Schwartz wrote, “Trump stands for many of the things I abhor: his willingness to run over people, the gaudy, tacky, gigantic obsessions, the absolute lack of interest in anything beyond power and money.”

Pursuit of power:
“One of the most deep and basic needs he has is to prove that ‘I’m richer than you.’ ”

Attention whore (parasite):
Often, after spending the day with Trump, and watching him pile one hugely expensive project atop the next, like a circus performer spinning plates, Schwartz would go home and tell his wife, “He’s a living black hole!” In his journal, he describes the hours he spent with Trump as “draining” and “deadening.”

Conspires with other sociopaths:
...strong whiff of cronyism that hovered over some deals.

Lack of morality / ethics:
Schwartz wrote in his journal that “almost everything” about the hotel deal had “an immoral cast.” But as the ghostwriter he was “trying hard to find my way around” behavior that he considered “if not reprehensible, at least morally questionable.”

Deceiver:
But O’Brien believes that Trump used the book to turn almost every step of his life, both personal and professional, into a “glittering fable.”

Disingenuous, fake:
As far as Schwartz could tell, Trump spent very little time with his family and had no close friends.

"It's just business" (nothing personal, lack of empathy):
Schwartz says of Trump, “He’d like people when they were helpful, and turn on them when they weren’t. It wasn’t personal. He’s a transactional man—it was all about what you could do for him.”

Selfish, self-absorbed:
“He was on a total run of complete and utter self-absorption,” Barrett says, adding, “It’s kind of like now.”

Lies with ease:
Schwartz said that when he was writing the book “the greatest percentage of Trump’s assets was in casinos, and he made it sound like each casino was more successful than the last. But every one of them was failing.” He went on, “I think he was just spinning. I don’t think he could have believed it at the time. He was losing millions of dollars a day.

Superiority complex:
An image of the book’s cover flashes onscreen as Trump explains that, as the “master,” he is now seeking an apprentice. O’Brien said, “ ‘The Apprentice’ is mythmaking on steroids. There’s a straight line from the book to the show to the 2016 campaign.”

Lies with ease:
In my phone interview with Trump, he initially said of Schwartz, “Tony was very good. He was the co-author.” But he dismissed Schwartz’s account of the writing process. “He didn’t write the book,” Trump told me. “I wrote the book. I wrote the book. It was my book. And it was a No. 1 best-seller, and one of the best-selling business books of all time. Some say it was the best-selling business book ever.” (It is not.) Howard Kaminsky, the former Random House head, laughed and said, “Trump didn’t write a postcard for us!”

Lack of empathy:
People are dispensable and disposable in Trump’s world. If Trump is elected President, he warned, “the millions of people who voted for him and believe that he represents their interests will learn what anyone who deals closely with him already knows—that he couldn’t care less about them.”

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Pay close attention to movies and television shows, especially the big feature films–Avatar, Blood Diamond, The Matrix, K-Pax, What Dreams May Come, V for Vendetta, Star Trek, Fight Club, Inception, Life of Pi, Mr. Robot. These movies and TV shows (among hundreds of others) have DEEP, subtle messages that hint to the Limitless (yes that movie too), yet presently controlled, possibilities of a human experience. They hint towards the unfathomable magnitude of evil and greed that is in the position of control. -- source

Do you know what it is, "the unfathomable magnitude of evil and greed that is in the position of control"?

If you've read the posts in this thread, you will know. Sociopaths are in all important positions of power and control. They are the source of an unfathomable magnitude of evil and greed. Sociopaths are the problem.

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Yes, it's a difficult paradigm shift that's desperately needed, from psychopathic logic to empathic logic, when the predominant global resource value is money and an overwhelmingly vast majority of humans are philosophized into believe this is the only way we can live, or rather survive to be more precise, for in my observations and opinion there is very little "living" going on in a monetary value system; in fact I would actually claim that an overwhelmingly vast majority of humans on this planet would have never even experienced "living" yet due to the dreadful monotonous struggle to survive.


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