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Never heard of Zionism..

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Qui bono by staging the crime? Plus the existing preponderance. Slam dunk.

Qui bono is not evidence. It is only suspicion. It does not ensure that reality aligns with your suspicions. You can weave a fascinating story around it, but that doesn't make it true.

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He must have been a big hero with you when you were growing up. Time to put Puff the Magic Dragon back in his cave, Chico. The real world does not need any more imagined heroes.

Wrong again. I hardly knew of him. Is this another example of your incredible discernment skills? Why yes, it is!

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Yes or no ... is there an occupation of America by Zionists?

Wrong question, Zook. There is a cancer in America and in the world. It is sociopathy. It dominates humanity's highest positions of power and control. It is not limited to banksters, or Zionists, or Bilderbergers, or politicians, or corporations, or Wall Street, or the City of London financial district.

So the answer to your question is yes and no, but I doubt you will understand that, being so inclined to oversimplification and binary thinking. :lol:

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Qui bono by staging the crime? Plus the existing preponderance. Slam dunk.

Qui bono is not evidence. It is only suspicion. It does not ensure that reality aligns with your suspicions. You can weave a fascinating story around it, but that doesn't make it true.


Qui bono ... is a crucial part of any investigation. Coupled with the existing preponderance, it's a virtual slam dunk. To wit, the confusion arrives when the preponderance is at odds with the motive ... when the motive and preponderance are aligned, there is clarity..

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He must have been a big hero with you when you were growing up. Time to put Puff the Magic Dragon back in his cave, Chico. The real world does not need any more imagined heroes.

Wrong again. I hardly knew of him. Is this another example of your incredible discernment skills? Why yes, it is!


Nope ... just a sarcastic stab in the dark. But I'll let you know when my discernment is not being sarcastic.

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Yes or no ... is there an occupation of America by Zionists?

Wrong question, Zook. There is a cancer in America and in the world. It is sociopathy. It dominates humanity's highest positions of power and control. It is not limited to banksters, or Zionists, or Bilderbergers, or politicians, or corporations, or Wall Street, or the City of London financial district.


The world is full of sociopaths. Some of them band together to form groups or tribes. Not all tribes are pushing for FSD or capable of it. Certainly, the band of sociopathic Mongolians is not involved with FSD. That tribe is content with riding yaks as they go about drinking, raping and pillaging. In fact, there is only a handful of sociopathic tribes that is even capable of sniffing FSD, much more achieving it. Of this handful, the Zionist signature is the most prominent one. On the observable evidence. The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion which is a handbook for full spectrum dominance ... is a free clue as to the identity of this dominant tribe in the handful of tribes aspiring for FSD.

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So the answer to your question is yes and no, but I doubt you will understand that, being so inclined to oversimplification and binary thinking. :lol:


You contract everything down to sociopathy. Reduction from the observables.

I acknowledge sociopathy ... and expand it to its organization, its secrecy and its fiat money, further noting that without the expansion there can be no FSD. Construction from the observables.

The evidence of oversimplified binary thinking clearly points at you.

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Qui bono ... is a crucial part of any investigation. Coupled with the existing preponderance, it's a virtual slam dunk.

Don't be ridiculous. You're supposed to think it's a slam dunk, because that's how they fool us. They use certainty.

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In fact, there is only a handful of sociopathic tribes that is even capable of sniffing FSD, much more achieving it. Of this handful, the Zionist signature is the most prominent one.

That could very well be, or not. What's important is that deviant human psychology is behind any group at the top, and that this is a specific kind of deviant human psychology called sociopathy. This disease can be identified and isolated. In fact, that is all that is required to cure the disease.

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You contract everything down to sociopathy.

That's because you cannot find the real solution until you have correctly identified the root problem.

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Qui bono ... is a crucial part of any investigation. Coupled with the existing preponderance, it's a virtual slam dunk.

Don't be ridiculous. You're supposed to think it's a slam dunk, because that's how they fool us. They use certainty.

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In fact, there is only a handful of sociopathic tribes that is even capable of sniffing FSD, much more achieving it. Of this handful, the Zionist signature is the most prominent one.

That could very well be, or not. What's important is that deviant human psychology is behind any group at the top, and that this is a specific kind of deviant human psychology called sociopathy. This disease can be identified and isolated. In fact, that is all that is required to cure the disease.


"Or not" is BS stuff.

Free clue: The Protocols Of The Learned Elders of Mongolia does not exist. Chew on that for awhile.

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You contract everything down to sociopathy.

That's because you cannot find the real solution until you have correctly identified the root problem.


The root problem is evil. Evil will not be solved any time soon ... and not likely in a laboratory. There's a good possibility that evil is the Siamese twin of good and that one does not exist without the other. Pain-pleasure. Man-woman. Yin-yang. Left-Right. Up-Down. Etc. The Universe that we know gave us dualities. It is probably not in our purview to overcome the foundational dualities of the Universe. The battle between good and evil is never-ending ... and the advantage oscillates between one or the other with the returning vector always pointing back to the center and balance.

Given this dynamic equilibrium, eternal vigilance is our most effective returning vector whenever there is too much evil. There is too much evil in the world right now. That said, the returning vector is not about solving evil, but restoring balance.

The returning vector demands that we solve the corrupted system. It does not demand that we eliminate one half of a core duality, and for very good reason, foundational dualities cannot be eradicated ... they can only be restored to balance. A solution to the corrupted system will indicate that we have restored the balance and are on our way to the good extreme of the duality. And then some time afterwards, decades, centuries, perhaps even millennia from now ... there will be too much good ... and this will trigger the returning vector in the opposite direction. Etc. Etc.

One huge problem that we face today is that we have people with poor understanding of the cyclic nature of the Universe proposing permanent solutions for semi-permanent problems.

The corrupted system is a semi-permanent problem. Sociopathy, by contrast, is a permanent problem. By definition, we cannot solve permanent problems. We can only manage them. To be sure, the prospect of living millennia under FSD totalitarianism is not a pleasant one, but even totalitarianism cannot last ... the balancing Universe will not allow it to last. And who knows, we may yet be able to reverse FSD if we correctly identify the problem before the evil reaches a threshold FSD extreme ... it all depends on how much commitment we have to the returning vector (eternal vigilance).

If we only have marginal commitment to the returning vector (e.g. if we use our resources to chase permanent problems that cannot be solved); we will then waste the opportunity to actually solve a semipermanent problem (e.g. the corrupted system). We will then be plunged into FSD because the returning vector is not strong enough to resist it. We will be forced to wait until FSD weakens its grip again, as cyclic things usually do ... and weakens it sufficiently so that the returning restoring vector becomes the bigger force. Etc. Etc.

To wit, manage evil ... do not attempt to solve it. Manage sociopathy ... do not attempt to solve it. The best management of sociopathy remains the collapse of the corrupted system and not the never-arriving collapse of a core duality.


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"Or not" is BS stuff.

Free clue: The Protocols Of The Learned Elders of Mongolia does not exist. Chew on that for awhile.

Zook, you are so blind, it's astounding.

You are assuming (poorly, as usual) that you have complete information, when you don't. There could be another higher organization than Zionism that is running the show, one that is still hidden. There could be more cooperation between groups than you know, such that no one group is critical. Zionism could be a deliberate feint to keep us distracted from the real problem. There are so many possibilities that you dismiss in your arrogant ignorance.

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The root problem is evil.

No, it's not. You are being short-sighted. Evil actually comes from somewhere. It comes from deviant human psychology, specifically sociopathy. You think evil is some abstract thing, which is the mistake humans have been making for millennia. Evil has a source. The "free clue" is that what humans consider evil comes from other humans. Specifically, it comes from other humans lacking empathy. It comes from sociopaths.

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Sociopathy, by contrast, is a permanent problem. By definition, we cannot solve permanent problems. We can only manage them.

I agree. We cannot prevent sociopaths, but we can manage them.

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The best management of sociopathy remains the collapse of the corrupted system and not the never-arriving collapse of a core duality.

No, this is just the continuation of the usual cycle that results from unmanaged sociopathy. Humanity will continue to repeat this cycle until we start identifying sociopaths and properly manage them. Letting them do their own thing of rising to the top and leading us is the rut we have been stuck in for millennia.

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I thought this was an interesting take, with the Snowden leaks being used as a psychological ploy.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNOdloBLn2U

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You know how the media likes to keep "shocking" us all with shocking new Snowden revelations every other week? Independent journalist Jon Rappoport put forth a really good theory on the mainstream media's continued slow-drip method of releasing Snowden leaks on NSA spying. Because come on — they're dragging this out longer than the credits for a Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Can it really all be chalked up to sensationalism and journalistic strategy?

Afraid not. Rappaport says it's a bit more purposeful than that: "It's all about keeping the NSA story alive, in order that people know they're being spied on 24/7. That's the social engineering aspect. That's the game."

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UncleZook wrote:
"Or not" is BS stuff.

Free clue: The Protocols Of The Learned Elders of Mongolia does not exist. Chew on that for awhile.

Zook, you are so blind, it's astounding.

You are assuming (poorly, as usual) that you have complete information, when you don't. There could be another higher organization than Zionism that is running the show, one that is still hidden. There could be more cooperation between groups than you know, such that no one group is critical. Zionism could be a deliberate feint to keep us distracted from the real problem. There are so many possibilities that you dismiss in your arrogant ignorance.


Your implied argument that complete information is required ... is a canard. I don't have it. You don't have it. No one on the outside looking in has it ... and no people on the inside have it. Complete information is not available to anyone; and near complete information is only available to the privileged few. We must all make our intermediate conclusions as the facts arrive. Yet by your obsequious arguments - and that's what they are - we're not supposed to conclude anything against the bankster empire short of complete information. A total canard. You're a quack.

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The root problem is evil.

No, it's not. You are being short-sighted. Evil actually comes from somewhere. It comes from deviant human psychology, specifically sociopathy. You think evil is some abstract thing, which is the mistake humans have been making for millennia. Evil has a source. The "free clue" is that what humans consider evil comes from other humans. Specifically, it comes from other humans lacking empathy. It comes from sociopaths.


Evil is the original name given to those that have a desire to see pain in others, more or less. Evil is vampiric, selfish, without conscience, without remorse, etc. No one knows where this desire comes from, i.e. no one knows the source. We only recognize it by the pain and suffering inflicted on others. Sociopathy is the expression of evil. A sociopath is an expressionist.

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Sociopathy, by contrast, is a permanent problem. By definition, we cannot solve permanent problems. We can only manage them.

I agree. We cannot prevent sociopaths, but we can manage them.


You don't manage them by redirecting everything to a study of sociopathy. You manage them by first destroying their power source and structures before they destroy you; and then, when you have the luxury of time ,you can further study it.

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The best management of sociopathy remains the collapse of the corrupted system and not the never-arriving collapse of a core duality.

No, this is just the continuation of the usual cycle that results from unmanaged sociopathy. Humanity will continue to repeat this cycle until we start identifying sociopaths and properly manage them. Letting them do their own thing of rising to the top and leading us is the rut we have been stuck in for millennia.


No. You don't get it. Core dualities can only be identified by the behavior. Genetic maps and what not are the stuff of a brave new world of eugenics. Not only can humanity do without the promise of a perfect species, but it can't even deliver on that promise. The soul cannot be mapped into the scientific database. No earthly burp with a microscope or a telescope, with a beaker or a gene splicer ... has the ability to trap the soul in a container and study it. Plenty of burps decide to do so anyways. Let it be their folly and not the folly of the larger humanity.


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Your implied argument that complete information is required ... is a canard.

No, it's not a canard. I didn't say complete information is required, you did. That's the canard, a straw man argument. What I'm saying is that we are all swimming in a sea of disinformation, of missing information, of deceptive information, and of false information. We have been in that sea our entire lives. That 's why our information is so woefully incomplete.

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Sociopathy is the expression of evil. A sociopath is an expressionist.

No. I just refuted this nonsense here.

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You don't manage them by redirecting everything to a study of sociopathy.

Straw man argument again. Nobody is suggesting we do that. Sufficient study has already been done. We have all the necessary pieces to build the solution, which consists of identifying and managing the sociopaths. All that is stopping us is the sociopaths themselves. As a sociopath, you are contributing to this unfortunate sabotage.

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Genetic maps and what not are the stuff of a brave new world of eugenics. Not only can humanity do without the promise of a perfect species, but it can't even deliver on that promise.

Straw man argument again. No one but you is suggesting this, and you only suggest it so you can attribute it to me and tear it down. I'm not suggesting genetic maps, eugenics, or perfect species. You are such a deceiver and manipulator, Zook. And you wonder why I identify you as a sociopath?

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I thought this was an interesting take, with the Snowden leaks being used as a psychological ploy.

Good one, Mags!

Yes, the operation we identify is often not the real operation, but a feint for something else. But I think the ultimate goal is indeed to condition us so that we are easier to control and manipulate. That's what sociopaths do, and sociopaths are driving this bus.

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