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Let’s start here: What’s wrong with the world?

Answer: We aren’t allowed to participate in any of the important decisions.

But we live in a nation based on democracy. Don’t the people decide through their representatives? Not at all. Our representatives don’t represent us. They are just window dressing designed to make us think we have a part in the decision-making process. In reality, we are ignored.

But we make our own reality, according to the New Age mindset. That is to some extent true, but to a large extent false. It’s true because I made myself oatmeal for breakfast this morning. It’s false because I had no part in the decision of my government to attack Libya. The New Agers have it wrong. We make our own illusions. Even that is inaccurate, as we have a great deal of help from outside sources. In truth, much of our reality and our illusions are decided for us.

Did you ever wonder why we war on people to bring them democracy, and then condemn democracy as mob rule? The reason is that democracy does not exist in this world, and the true decision-makers will see to it that it never does.

United People wants to see rule by the people. People should make the important decisions themselves. It must be done by consensus, with the consensus level for agreement set somewhere between 50 and 100 percent. Precisely where the level should be set is open for debate, but I personally can argue for 80 percent.

Consensus is key. Consensus can clearly show us that the answer above, that “we aren’t allowed to participate in any of the important decisions”, is obviously true. A simple poll that I started on the Project Avalon forum shows that 93% of the respondents do not want American military troops in Iraq. Yet Iraq has been brutalized and occupied unjustly by the United States for over eight years. Another poll on Avalon shows 92% believe no one should be banned for “not being in alignment with the purpose and energy of the forum.” Yet I was banned from Avalon for that very reason.

The nuclear disaster at Fukushima has clearly shown the whole world how absurdly dangerous conventional nuclear power is. I can easily predict that world consensus would be that nuclear power should be abandoned, yet the true decision-makers are pushing nuclear power more vigorously than ever.

Obviously, the people most affected by the decisions being made have no influence on those decisions. That this is wrong and must be changed is also obvious. Rule by consensus is the solution. A united and organized people is the way to get there.

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Fri May 27, 2011 8:02 pm
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I understand your feelings but the truth is that this place is our own film that we each play out and have complete control over.

The fact that most would prefer to see and experience a bad film is only a indicate of karma?

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Hi there.

Yes, in a way, "to each his own" reality, yet, this illusion of life we're practicing daily on an individual scale never get brighter , warmer, and fulfilling than when two, three or hundreds of individuals get to tune in the same vision.

We are never parted from others, we dig those trenches ourselves. I'm tired of digging in the wind, once the veil of superficiality and lies is removed the distance between people becomes the illusion.

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Yes...we aren't allowed to participate in any of the important decisions. However, it's only recently that I realised I'm not allowed to participate in the seemingly small decisions either.

Point in case....I live in a little country town. My son goes to a little country school. I'm uncomfortable with the changes around me. Firstly, a school uniform was introduced, with much discussion from families, apparently most parents desired this. They wanted the children to all dress the same, they wanted same-ness or I guess they felt it would be cheaper. Still, the school community was asked for their input. That was fair.

Then a tall, unattractive, metal fence was put around the school. Apparently we have a runner in our midst (a child of special needs keeps escaping and needs to be contained for his own safety). I guess that's fair too. But it's ugly.

Following this my son's Teacher pulled me aside advising when I ring the school to say my son won't be attending that day I can't say he's not coming because he's exhausted. Parent's who do this will be contacted by the Headmaster. She was embarrassed to tell me this but her hands were tied. Apparently exhaustion is only acceptable when they first start school, following that illness is the 'requirement'. Now I wish to point out here this is the first time all year I kept him home. It would not have been a great idea to send him to school that day (mum's can tell this sort of thing).

Following on from the uniform, the fence and the threat of a call from the principal, I arrived one day with my son's guitar he had forgotton to take with him that morning. To be told I now had to sign in, be given a visitors badge, and then sign out again. Alternatively there was a student sitting at the information desk waiting for situations such as this and she could deliver the guitar. I'm really quite harmless, however, my son's school no longer trusts me.

So last week I needed to collect my son early to go to an appointment and wouldn't be back in time to collect him from school. I thought he could spend some time with his Nana - but what to tell the school?? I'm sure 'visiting Nana' is not acceptable either. My son decided we should say he was going to a specialist and when I asked "what specialist", he pointed to his bum and laughing hysterically at his own humour announced "specialist of the Bum". I really didn't want to make him tell a lie, and told him he can just tell the teacher to ask me. But oh no, he thought 'specialist of the bum' was the way to go since they were in effect forcing us lie. So 'specialist of the bum' it was....and quite frankly, who is going to question that!

So time marches on and our rights as parents are continuously and methodically eroded. These seem like little things individually but more and more of these little things are being introduced around me.

Lately, I have spent some time notifying people I know that in order to coerce parents into vaccinating their children, our government is planning to link family support payments to the vaccination program. Now I'm lucky enough not to be in a position where I need this support but there are plenty of families that do and imo this is just plain wrong. Also, you will have to show your vaccination certificate to your child's pre school or school. Giving them the choice to turn away children that aren't vaccinated. I received very little response from the people i sent this info to.

It's all stacking up around us.

So, yes chiccodoodoo...where's the consensus?? Where I live it appears to be a consensus for more of the same and sadly allowing an escalation? I hate to see the term 'sheeple' splashed around. To me it's an arrogant statement. I feel we are all inter-connected...a human family and this is a numbers game.

I wonder....how far is this going to go before enough people are awakened??

Warm wishes....
Lee
(apologies for the rant, it's 1.30am here)

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Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:35 pm
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Mind-blowing interpretation of the film 'The Matrix". For example at 2'30, "Many of the them are so inert and so hopelessly dependant on the system, that they will fight to protect it". How long will be the road and at what costs?



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Good vid Skippy..

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Matrix is my favorite movie of all time, an absolute work of genius, or should I say of human cooperation, which can produce the same result.

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Lee wrote:
Lately, I have spent some time notifying people I know that in order to coerce parents into vaccinating their children, our government is planning to link family support payments to the vaccination program. Now I'm lucky enough not to be in a position where I need this support but there are plenty of families that do and imo this is just plain wrong.


Good rant! Yes, plain wrong is right.

Your story illustrates how these types of controls are imposed on us little by little in such a manner that those opposed are always in the minority, because the majority have been pre-conditioned to support the changes because of pre-selected arguments in favor of the changes! Absolutely insidious, but oh so subtle and clever!

Thanks for sharing, Lee. I'm glad to hear your voice.

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