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Author: | magamud [ Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Got thoughts? We can fix that. |
You cant see the evidence. That is the problem... And your means to understand it in your scientific bubble are insufficient. Hence, you cannot fix the problem in the same paradigm it was created. |
Author: | Chicodoodoo [ Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:49 pm ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Perhaps, but I doubt it. Evidence, by its very nature, should be "evident". It is more likely that you are unable to present any evidence that is sufficiently evident for me and most anyone else to see. That does not mean that you are wrong or that I am right. It just means that there is more uncertainty than we might like.
I doubt that as well. A scientific bubble is all about trying to find sufficient means to understand the evidence. But the scientific bubble does require evidence to work with. If there isn't any, it doesn't spend time fabricating some.
And that's not what we are doing. We have conflicting paradigms at work here, and that is creating the problem. One paradigm is faith-based and does not require evidence. The other paradigm is reason-based, and it does require evidence, as well as logic, repeatability, peer review, and accommodation of dissent. Note that those additional characteristics are not welcome in the faith-based paradigm, and I think we are seeing some of that in our discussion here. |
Author: | magamud [ Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:15 pm ] | |||||||||
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1. Reason based, thats a check, 2. Well many see this evidence, unless of course you are going to declare a mass illusion? Your debate reference that no one gets it. There is only a few people here anyway. And I thought I was a dramatist. 3. Logic, check.... 4. Repeatability, Christ, bloodline, prophecy, ok check. 4. Peer Review, im not sure if this will be centralized to Chico's peer review eventually, but plenty of thesis. 5. Accommodation of dissent? I thought it was try and stop us if you dare? I think Dark Matter is a good place to start. It exists but it does not reflect light. We can measure it with weight. Also relational physics. I see it as coming from dark matter into being, not the other way around. Your limited in your scope. Things in a way must come to you, like you dont make things up analogy. Life does not work that way. You are constantly making something. How can you disassociate like that? |
Author: | Chicodoodoo [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Got thoughts? We can fix that. |
I don't know what you're talking about, Mags. You're all over the place. |
Author: | Chicodoodoo [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:39 am ] | |||||||||
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The education system has been thoroughly corrupted. This is the primary method of programming people to not think, or to put it another way, to always think inside the box. Here are two other related posts that mention John Taylor Gatto, a thoughtful critic of our malignant educational system: 1 2 |
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