Shooting frames didn't help the man the police murdered. Shooting bullets might have. Now the police are working to cover up their crime. Land of the free, home of the brave? Obviously not.
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Andy is framing the discussion to quell justification for self preservation against this social tyranny. Would this logic still pertain if your child was being attacked? Thats a rhetorical question. Again this comes to how personal you think tyranny is effecting you or your species. It appears many people still feel Reason will prevail. Its comfortable to think that, but what history tells us is the opposite. Its good to be educated on this issue, but lets keep it civil. One does not need to use emotional or picturesque extremes to make a point? And if so, that saids something of your point. Perhaps your getting a second hand dose of the fighting juice Andy? Thats rhetorical too..
Another point is this balance of fighting oppression. The spirit of civil disobedience is the line one must follow and on either side of it, is violence and passivity.
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Its good to be educated on this issue, but lets keep it civil. One does not need to use emotional or picturesque extremes to make a point? And if so, that saids something of your point. Perhaps your getting a second hand dose of the fighting juice Andy?
I doubt it Mags, but you never know!
So in the light of fairness and in the hope of keeping things civil, how about you answer my question before asking one of your own.
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I'm finding this all rather confusing Mags, especially considering the previous position you've taken on the ruling elite's subversion of revolutions, and what was your plan if this now cancelled "armed revolt to remove the federal government" had turned into a gunfight?
Perhaps your getting a second hand dose of the fighting juice Andy?
As an after note... you may want to brush up your skills a little in the art of discourse Mags as this last question of yours can not be described as rhetorical by any stretch of the imagination, and by editing that claim in later does not make it so!
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Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:38 am
magamud
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Re: "Shoot frames not bullets!"
Give me a break Andy. Are you drinking Rum again?
It does not matter anymore if we are in an engineered revolution to the point of watching our freedom being taken away. You have to push back. Is that really that hard to figure out? Well apparently it is for you. And your really going to get scientific on me with rhetoric and saying your drinking juice
Im not sure what juice your on lately.
Perhaps spending a little more time on your signature instead of searching for bannana giffs would suit you?
_________________ Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
It does not matter anymore if we are in an engineered revolution to the point of watching our freedom being taken away. You have to push back. Is that really that hard to figure out? Well apparently it is for you. And your really going to get scientific on me with rhetoric and saying your drinking juice
Im not sure what juice your on lately.
Perhaps spending a little more time on your signature instead of searching for bannana giffs would suit you?
So you had no plan if AK's now cancelled "armed revolt to remove the federal government" had turned into a gunfight.
See, it's not so hard to say!
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