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magamud
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
_________________ Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:47 pm |
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magamud
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
Alex Jones is on fire talking about God and the Devil today. Nice Work AJ!
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Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:23 pm |
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
Atwill makes the case that religion is government mind control. I have long suspected as much. Two interviews to choose from: Red Ice RadioVinney Eastwood Show
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Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:03 pm |
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magamud
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
I listend to Atwill on Veritas. He makes no reference to the possibilities of miracles or reflects on the wisdom of the Gospel.
And completely assumes there is just corruption from the Jesus narrative. It's a major flaw in his conclusions.
He is good at pointing out how Jesus time here was used for nefarious purposes.
Never let a crisis go to waste?
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Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:40 am |
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
Miracles are unexplained phenomena. They certainly happen. There's a great deal we can't explain, and of the stuff we can explain, our explanations are often wrong. There is wisdom in the Bible. All propaganda will contain verifiable truths. That's essential to make the propaganda believable. There is much Atwill does not talk about, but that's because it is not germane to the subject he is talking about. At least, that's my impression.
_________________ It's not that we can't handle the truth. It's that they can't handle us if we know the truth.
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Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:15 am |
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magamud
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
Its not germaine or he chooses not to believe in possibilities. With his conclusions, it could very much be so, that Jesus did visit the earth and his event used for sociopathic means.
Either way for an evidence based man, conclusions are less then certain.
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Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:55 am |
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
Granted the conclusions are not certain, but they are reasonably solid. A little time spent on Atwill's blog site, reading his blogs and the comments, will give you an idea of the broad scope he considers and the support he enjoys from experts in his field.
_________________ It's not that we can't handle the truth. It's that they can't handle us if we know the truth.
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Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:17 am |
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
One of the tragedies of the faithful is that they refuse to examine the evidence that makes their faith a cruel joke. The pursuit of truth requires understanding all sides of an issue. Faith is designed to prevent this. Faith and truth-seeking are mutually exclusive. Faith dictates what one will call truth. It demands certainty. Truth-seeking is the opposite. It constantly questions what one currently calls truth. It demands uncertainty. One cannot "question everything and dismiss nothing" when one is certain of the truth. For those that have faith in Jesus Christ, the son of God, who died for your sins to somehow give you the chance to save your eternal soul, this information is sacrilege. Faith is the fortification that defends against new knowledge. The indications of the scam are rampant in that first sentence. Can you define God coherently? Is there good evidence that Jesus Christ existed outside of the story of his existence? What were these horrible sins you committed, long after Jesus died? How does his death mitigate your sins? What is a soul? How can it be shown that you have one? If it is eternal, why must it be saved? By comparison, George Atwill's explanation is so much more reasonable. Organized religion is a mind control technique used by the tiny sociopathic minority to maintain power and control over the vast empathetic majority. They essentially appeal to our empathy (poor Jesus, persecuted for his faith, crucified, and he dies for YOU) and use it to ensnare us. It is a brilliant strategy, and it has worked beautifully for millennia. It is still working (poor children of Syria, gassed to death because of a tyrant that won't bend to the ruling sociopaths).
_________________ It's not that we can't handle the truth. It's that they can't handle us if we know the truth.
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Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:02 am |
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magamud
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
Being certain that all spirituality is a delusion will be the foundations of our futures next level of fascism and control over human sovereignty. The preponderance of evidence that there is a natural relationship to something beyond our senses and existence is overwhelming. So for those who can think for themselves in this area a non traditional or irrational interpretation is used by those who dont see. This further develops into a fascist projection to control. So this issue then becomes about freedom of choice and all men being created equal.
The intertwinement of corruption is very deep psychologically in this arena. People who dont think for themselves join or believe this form of Religion, nationalism or conglomerate to gain identity or power. Atwill does a good job teasing this out, but like a good Gatekeeper he loses open mindedness to receive new information and gloats in his certainty.
_________________ Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
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Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:59 pm |
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Lotus Eaters
I agree that certainty is how they play us. That is the purpose of propaganda, to make us certain that something is the case, like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It hardly matters whether they say spirituality is a delusion or spirituality is real. What matters is that we buy into their argument without question, for then they can manipulate us. That's the problem -- something beyond our senses and existence is unlikely to offer us a preponderance of evidence. Question everything and dismiss nothing. Atwill should be criticized when he merits it. I haven't heard any gloating from him or seen evidence of a closed mind, but that is a subjective evaluation. Rather than discrediting the messenger, we are better served by discrediting the message, if we can.
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