This a good to bear in mind when we get too engrossed and wrapped up in online shenanigans.
He makes some really good points i.e. shopping online and depersonalisation; contrived online personalities and celebrity culture.
Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:33 pm
Grumplebum
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Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
Hi nongeneration,
Interesting topic. Personally I don't mind my identity being spread around the internet as I have nothing to hide (well, not that much anyway).
What I don't understand are the people who pretend. They behave in a different way than in real life.
My rule of thumb is, never do anything on the internet you wouldn't do in real life.
Best regards.
Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:16 pm
Oh Yeah!
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:41 pm Posts: 565
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
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Some sober thinking from Will Self.
This a good to bear in mind when we get too engrossed and wrapped up in online shenanigans.
He makes some really good points i.e. shopping online and depersonalisation; contrived online personalities and celebrity culture.
Many valid points, thanks.
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:29 pm
nongeneration
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:36 pm Posts: 319
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
No worries.
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I have nothing to hide
I have nothing to hide either but that doesnt give anyone the right to open my mail.
Yes, it's inevitable that there will be a large group of people who are attracted to online socialising/dating because you can easily be something you've always dreamt of being - it's almost like a version of voyeurism but watching yourself in virtual reality.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:37 pm
magamud
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 10:33 pm Posts: 4156
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
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voyeurism but watching yourself in virtual reality.
It all comes down in separating yourself from yourself, so you dont have to deal with yourself. Our species evolution could be said to be just about this. Remarkable....
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:04 pm
nongeneration
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:36 pm Posts: 319
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
Yep, why bother working on yourself to be more of the sort of person you would like to be when you can contrive it and pretend.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:12 pm
magamud
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 10:33 pm Posts: 4156
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
This is the very depth of perception that would heal our people and the world. Yet to get there you have to smash fake identities, beliefs and concepts. But this of course is negative thinking. As to why stimulating and stampeding our species is so important so you never have the time.
Also there is a plateau enlightened people will hover at. They do some self work enough to have topic points with the local shrink but never get to really deep. Thats because they can transport themselves into la la land where all is an illusion or love. Pathetic....
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:23 pm
nongeneration
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:36 pm Posts: 319
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
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smash fake identities, beliefs and concepts.
In some people this is very pronounced - you can actually watch an interplay of different masks, terrifying. How can you really know where you stand with someone like that? They live an absolute lie, cannot even get the fundamentals of being the slightest bit genuine. You find some people's identities are completely wrapped up in their job and when at times they don't perform too well, it's like their world's going to end. In reality, most people are just shuffling bits of paper around, deconstructed that is all it is.
It is difficult to take your social masks off and allow your self to shine through, in fact, it's bloody painfully hard and it will cost you friends, lovers and jobs. As long as I can look myself in the eye though but got a long way to go too.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:32 pm
magamud
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 10:33 pm Posts: 4156
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
What about the Truth Forums? All these people with enough power to at least unmask the societal lie and re organize their psyche. They are failing horribly at tracking morality, talking about it and cultivating it. Whitewashing it with Spiritual concepts? Intellectual concepts?
The stench is profound, people are cowards and lazy.
Shit just look at all the topic points on these boards.
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:38 pm
nongeneration
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:36 pm Posts: 319
Re: Will Self: The Internt is a False Friend
Mag, I don't really think of them as truth forums.
We both know they are not.
Why even pretend they are?
Doing lots of research into things is sometimes beyond people's mental and physical constraints. It is easier to come on a truth board and pat each other on the back then confront any serious issues because it involves hard work and people inevitably make excuses as to why they don't need to do that.
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