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I am putting this topic under Philosophy and not under Politics. Democracy has been so thoroughly corrupted by politics that it has been totally divorced from its philosophic roots.

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How did we manage to pervert such a laudable notion of power to the people and diametrically turn it into a global system of rule at large under the principles of oligarchy and plutocracy? Everywhere we look, from east to west and north to south, plutocrats and oligarchs are firmly in charge: puppet masters of the political class. They have transformed democracy into a parody of itself and a toxic form of government. The social contract implied in a democratic form of governance is broken. -- source

Democracy is completely broken on this planet, that's for sure. I know of no country today that is truly ruled by its people. Show me one, if you can.

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Today politicians, who still have the audacity to call themselves public servants, are the obedient executors of the trans-national global corporate elite. These politicians are actors who are cast to perform in opaque screenplays written by top corporate power brokers and marketed to the public like products. In this sad state of affairs that passes for democracy, citizens have become blind consumers of products, which are political figureheads working for global corporate interests. -- source

I have long argued that democracy is the fairest form of governance, and that high-consensus democracy is the fairest form of democracy. This forum was originally set up to be directed democratically by its members via high-consensus democracy. But just as in the real world, sociopaths infiltrated and gamed the system, and the experiment failed.

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Mark Twain wrote: “If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.” This quote from the gilded age has never been more accurate than it is today. A vote implies real choice, and we have none. -- source

Precisely right. We have the illusion of democracy, and as George Carlin so eloquently pointed out, we have been given the illusion of choice when in fact we have none.

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Although an increasing number of people realize that a drastic systemic change is imperative, few are willing to admit that nothing short of a global revolution can challenge the entrenched plutocratic world order. -- source

Very few. I should know, because I am one of them, and I tend to find myself standing alone.

I highly recommend the article from which I pulled all the quotes. I could have written that article myself, but I'm glad I didn't just so I could see that I am not really standing here all alone. The article reminds me that Rousseau, Voltaire, Diderot, Montesquieu, and others (thank you Gilbert Mercier) have stood where I stand, so I am in good company after all.

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Our democracy is a ruse. Ostensibly it expresses the aspirations of the people. In reality, it masks the insidious anti-human agenda of the central bankers. -- source

That's it in a nutshell. Democracy is a deception. Money rules everything on this planet, including the United States. The people who create the money out of thin air rule the world. Who are these people? The ruling sociopaths. The Rothschilds and their financial cabal. But it is certainly not us, the people.

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I hope that when the system falls like a tree being sawed off at its base, it will fall in the direction of democracy rather than a republic.

Yes, but not a "simple-majority" form of democracy, which is only one vote removed from perfect division. We will need a "super-majority" form of democracy, where nothing gets done unless 80% or more of the voters agree on the issue. All adults will have the right to vote, and there will be no "representatives" voting for others. One vote per person, and anti-cheating verification must be built into the system.

The biggest problem I see is how will issues be created, prioritized, and selected for popular vote in a fair and beneficial (to the public) manner? We will need a solution to that enormous problem before democracy can work. Sociopaths as a group will always be looking for ways to circumvent and corrupt the voting system for their own benefit, and this has to be addressed in the design of any government system.

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