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Sociopaths -- who knew? 
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In a 2-set modelling, sociopathy would be the entire left side of the neutral center (e.g. median) ... and empathy, the entire right side.

This is utter nonsense. No wonder you are so lost.

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In a 4-set modelling, sociopathy and nonempathy would both be on the left side of the neutral center...

Indeed, the Gaussian normal distribution would push sociopathic cases beyond the 1st standard deviation of psychological makeup to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th deviational outliers on the left side...

This is even worse utter nonsense.

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There is more to the mathematical modelling of psychological makeup then you are able (or willing) to grasp, Chico.

Indubitably. Only the great and powerful ZOOK is capable of grasping such a harmony of mathematical precision. :face:

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... my reactive temper prevents me from becoming part of the truly gifted community of 4th deviation empaths, e.g. the saints.

:lol: :lol: But of course.

You're just selling yourself short in a deliberate but disturbing display of false modesty.

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If I were to hazard a guess about you, your psychological makeup ...

You're attempting to withdraw from a resounding defeat ...

The games sociopaths play...

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By contrast, the organization only exists because it's an edifice.

:face:

You're hopeless.

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The rigorous mathematical dismantling of Martha Stout's hypothesis and profitable enterprise tickling the feathers of the duck discipline, psychology ... in which all kinds of normal human behaviors are assigned arbitrary threshold intensities, the breach of which trigger the coinage and the classification: sociopath ... has apparently disturbed one of her fanatics, to the point of his bleating "Utter nonsense!!" (or something equally dismissive) over and over again.

Bleating reveals a mindset that is not interested in exploring or exchanging ideas, but rather, parroting the original hypothesis with defiance and dimwittery. So be it. I can only posit some counterarguments. The fools will have to make their own reputations.

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... has apparently disturbed one of her fanatics, to the point of his bleating "Utter nonsense!!" (or something equally dismissive) over and over again.

Yeah, that has to be it. It couldn't be that anything Zook proclaims could possibly be utter nonsense. It has to be a bad association between Martha Stout and Chicodoodoo. Problem solved!

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... has apparently disturbed one of her fanatics, to the point of his bleating "Utter nonsense!!" (or something equally dismissive) over and over again.

Yeah, that has to be it. It couldn't be that anything Zook proclaims could possibly be utter nonsense. It has to be a bad association between Martha Stout and Chicodoodoo. Problem solved!


Address the message, not the messenger ... and your level of discernment might improve.

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Address the message, not the messenger ... and your level of discernment might improve.

Are you out of your mind? If you go back and read the post, you will see that I was addressing the message, and not the messenger. Now, of course, I have to wonder about the messenger, who can't even distinguish the message from the messenger.

It is only when one can understand the psychology of a sociopath that one sees how the message and the messenger become indistinguishable from the sociopath's perspective.

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Speaking of sociopaths, here's some insight into Rumsfeld's psychology. Rumsfeld is very likely a classic sociopath (part of the Bush administration's "Dream Team"), so it is revealing to get the impressions of a likely non-sociopath who has interacted with him.

Like Cheney, Rumsfeld is one very disturbing character. Rumsfeld's smile is one you might see as he withdraws the proverbial knife from your body, as you wonder what just happened
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Errol Morris on Donald Rumsfeld: 'One of the strangest interviews I've ever done'

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Address the message, not the messenger ... and your level of discernment might improve.

Are you out of your mind? If you go back and read the post, you will see that I was addressing the message, and not the messenger. Now, of course, I have to wonder about the messenger, who can't even distinguish the message from the messenger.

It is only when one can understand the psychology of a sociopath that one sees how the message and the messenger become indistinguishable from the sociopath's perspective.


"No wonder you are so lost."

"Only the great and powerful ZOOK is capable of grasping such a harmony of mathematical precision."

"You're just selling yourself short in a deliberate but disturbing display of false modesty."

"The games sociopaths play..."

"You're hopeless."


I realize you are trying to waste time, Chico. But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your delusional state when the easy opportunity affords itself. For in the very post you link to are found the above quotations, all yours ... and they have nothing to do with any message and are fully focused on the messenger.

"It is only when one can understand the psychology of a sociopath that one sees how the message and the messenger become indistinguishable from the sociopath's perspective." - Chico


By your own criteria and standard of evaluation (of a sociopath), Chico, it would appear that you've outed yourself as being one. For you certainly make no distinctions between messenger and message. At this point, I have to ask, was this forum created, in part, as a therapeutic means of self-study? I mean, I can see where you might think that interacting with empaths on a regular basis ... and identifying sociopaths, real or perceived ... would lead to introspection on your part and self-enlightenment. But if you're trying to cure yourself of some personal affliction, perhaps a forum is not the way to go. Just saying.

Not to worry, Chico. My standard of evaluating sociopaths has more science and discernment than yours. And in my standards, you are not a sociopath. At worst, a gatekeeper. At best, a delusional fragile sort. I have pity to offer more than any amount of contempt. All is good.

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For in the very post you link to are found the above quotations, all yours ... and they have nothing to do with any message and are fully focused on the messenger.

:lol: :lol: What a blind man (or should I say con-man) you are!

You left out your quotes that I was commenting on! Naturally, if you leave out the context (the message), you can claim it's all about the messenger and that there was no message. Really, Zook, you are absurd.

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By your own criteria and standard of evaluation (of a sociopath), Chico, it would appear that you've outed yourself as being one. For you certainly make no distinctions between messenger and message.

You really have no clue how your behavior here exposes your sociopathy, my poor Zook. You do exactly what sociopaths always do -- reflect back on your opposition your exposed flaws! I'm sure you remember this post, about how sociopaths accuse opponents of their own malfeasance?

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At this point, I have to ask, was this forum created, in part, as a therapeutic means of self-study? I mean, I can see where you might think that interacting with empaths on a regular basis ... and identifying sociopaths, real or perceived ... would lead to introspection on your part and self-enlightenment. But if you're trying to cure yourself of some personal affliction, perhaps a forum is not the way to go. Just saying.

Just exposing yourself, you mean. This is just smug sociopathic game-playing, one-upmanship, arrogant strutting, chest-thumping, and shameful self-congratulation.

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Not to worry, Chico. My standard of evaluating sociopaths has more science and discernment than yours. And in my standards, you are not a sociopath. At worst, a gatekeeper. At best, a delusional fragile sort. I have pity to offer more than any amount of contempt. All is good.

No worries on my end. You're doing a fine job justifying your superiority, as sociopaths always do.

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For in the very post you link to are found the above quotations, all yours ... and they have nothing to do with any message and are fully focused on the messenger.

:lol: :lol: What a blind man (or should I say con-man) you are!

You left out your quotes that I was commenting on! Naturally, if you leave out the context (the message), you can claim it's all about the messenger and that there was no message. Really, Zook, you are absurd.


My comments were the message. I was the messenger, e.g. because they were my comments. You attacked the messenger. You did not address the message. Do you see the logic trap that has ensnared you? To compound matters, you further vacation in the logic trap by once again ignoring my comments and resorting to a messenger attack (e.g. con-man namecalling).

You know, Chico, it's useless trying to argue with you. For logic is something you have yet to show respect for.

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You're doing a fine job justifying your superiority, as sociopaths always do.


I don't waste time justifying superiority ... I merely exercise it. That's sufficient for me.

You and I both know that you can't (or won't) handle the truths with any intellectual rigor; that your only recourse then is to go after those truthseekers that can (or will). The cries of "You're a sociopath!" in addition to your personal mission of bringing most things into the tent of confusion, where unwarranted uncertainty finds its perfect chair, bed, and porridge ... is your greatest gift to the bankster empire.

Of course, when faced with a real psychopath, exaggerator, manipulator, and tall tale talker in Leon Degrelle, you're quick to ignore his certifiable sociopathy.

FWIW, hardcore racialists - which is what Degrelle was - are instinctive tribal animals that will kill for the tribe without batting an eyelid; and that's an inescapable threshold exhibition of sociopathic behavior. Sociopaths populate all levels of our corrupted political structures; and they are also found in legion in the paramilitary corps that commit extrajudicial killings (here, the SS Waffen were racial Germany's equivalent of Bolshevik Russia's leftwing death squads; latin America's right wing death squads, Haiti's Tonton Macoutes, Reza Pahlavi's SAVAK, America's paramilitary contractors such as Blackwater and DynCorp, etc.) ... but perhaps the easiest place to identify sociopaths is in their hardcore racial identification.

Equally, Chico, you're quick to find refuge in unwarranted uncertainty about Degrelle's actual origins and purpose.

So be it. In your current ways, you're destined to be that rare spider that gets trapped in its own web. My advice: stop spinning webs (of deceit and self-deceit). You may have a chance yet of experiencing levels of empathy that are currently foreign to your psychological makeup.

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UncleZook wrote:
My comments were the message. I was the messenger, e.g. because they were my comments. You attacked the messenger. You did not address the message. Do you see the logic trap that has ensnared you?

You are such a game-player, Zook. Let's review to see through your deceptions:

UncleZook wrote:
In a 2-set modelling, sociopathy would be the entire left side of the neutral center (e.g. median) ... and empathy, the entire right side.

This is utter nonsense. No wonder you are so lost.

You claim I attack you and do not address the message. As you can see, I quoted the message, where you stated "sociopathy would be the entire left side of the neutral center". I pointed out that your message is utter nonsense, so much so that it was really unnecessary to explain why. In case you are denser than a black hole, you have just defined half the population to be sociopaths, which is indeed utter nonsense!

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You know, Chico, it's useless trying to argue with you. For logic is something you have yet to show respect for.

Yes, you're going to need a good escape route, and claiming that I am illogical is about all you have to grasp at.

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I don't waste time justifying superiority ... I merely exercise it. That's sufficient for me.

:lol: :lol:

No, you clearly don't waste time justifying your superiority. :face:

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