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Chicodoodoo
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 The Second Amendment What is not clear about the meaning of the Second Amendment? There are many laws that infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms, and those laws are therefore unconstitutional, yet they are allowed to stand. The only reason for this is that the judicial system of the United States of America is corrupt and treasonous. What constitutes an infringement on keeping and bearing arms? - Restricting the possession of weapons based on type, function, parameters, or any other physical characteristics of the weapon (e.g. sawed-off shotguns, fully automatic firing, etc.).
- Restricting the "bearing" of weapons based on visibility (e.g. concealed weapons)
- Restricting the transfer of weapons by way of taxes, levies, or duties (e.g. the $200 tax, equivalent to about $11,000 today, placed on fully automatic weapons in 1934).
Laws enforcing all of those infringements are on the books, often with the flimsiest of support. For example, Robertson v. Baldwin (1897) is often cited as the case that disallowed concealed weapons, yet that case had nothing to do with weapons (concealed or otherwise), which were only mentioned once in a lengthy and poorly constructed analogy! Until this month, Illinois had a complete ban in place on concealed weapons, which is a blatantly unconstitutional law to anyone reading and understanding the simple, one-line Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land. On December 13, a Federal Court struck down the Illinois law as unconstitutional, which should have been done long ago. Despite that ruling, "Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn, who favors strict gun control laws and proposed an assault weapons ban earlier this year that lawmakers defeated, has vowed to again bring legislation that would prohibit the sale or possession of semi-automatic rifles and other guns." The Illinois governor is clearly a traitor who is undermining the U.S. Constitution despite his solemn oath to support that same document (much like Obama)! Why is he not immediately impeached? Because good people are too comfortable, too lazy, too uninformed, too apathetic, or too brainwashed to bother. The bad people have simply been bought off. Money rules, not justice, and the only thing that can stop the money is an armed citizenry. That was the reason for the Second Amendment -- to ensure the liberty of the people, meaning you and me.
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magamud
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Re: The Second Amendment Just to play devils advocate:
What if the second was to ensure that there would be war in the future?
This would be so, if they knew how technology could control society. This points to the Technocratic sociopathic age...
Now this could be imaginary with time travel or it could not. Or someone had enough vision to predict the future. IDK.
Its just convenient how things are going down currently from my pov...
This would portend to Alex Jones being a Jesuit and creating war.
But what can you do when war is your only option?
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Second Amendment Then how do you explain the Swiss? I notice they aren't warring against anyone at any time. The right to bear arms is a defensive measure, not an offensive one. The drive to disarm the public is definitely an offensive measure, not a defensive one.
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magamud
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Re: The Second Amendment Engineered from my pov. Much like the Ron Paul issue. Its more of operating in plain sight. In a variety of comedies there is a straight character that everyone bounces their jokes off. I would say usually yes, but not possibly in a Technocratic Sociopathic Age. War is the heart that pumps the money and steams the engine. So in that sense arming people is an act of war. Much like our dynamics in assimilating third world countries and arming them for war. Just a side note once they have exploited war, they will just exploit peace, and around around you go, where it stops nobody knows... I believe in arming yourself, but I dont think the founding fathers or Maybe they did know, that the Technocratic age, would need armed people to further its Reich of the people. This points to the masons...
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Second Amendment No, I disagree. The Swiss clearly demonstrate that arming the people is not sufficient to make them war on others. For that, you must deceive and psychologically manipulate the people, and then they will go to war regardless of their personal weapons inventory, even if they are otherwise forbidden to have weapons. And that points to the sociopaths, which include many high ranking masons.
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magamud
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Re: The Second Amendment Yes I get your point. Listen I think the Constitution is one of the best magnum opus of human liberty ever written. The contrasts, the statements of their debates are some of the finest liberty orations of all time.
To bad the game was fixed....
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Re: The Second Amendment I'm not sure who the author of this letter is as it was emailed to me without links.
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A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
During WW II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
If you value your freedom, please spread this anti gun-control message to all of your friends.
The purpose of fighting is to win.
There is no possible victory in defense.
The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.
The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
IT'S A NO BRAINER!
DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.
I'm a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment! If you are too, please forward.
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Second Amendment Yes, I agree. If you start with the Golden Rule (and I know of no better place to start), liberty, freedom, and equality are the natural by-products that result. There is no hierarchy, no class system, no slavery, no division, and no "conquering" that can result. The Golden Rule, when properly stated in the negative form, is "Do not do to others what you would not want them to do to you." There is no greater statement of equality. The American Declaration of Independence effectively started there as well when it observed "that all men are created equal". No person would deny another human being of life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness if he were committed to the Golden Rule. Unfortunately for humanity, no sociopath will live by the Golden Rule, for that requires an understanding of empathy.
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Second Amendment How simple is the 2nd Amendment? It really is this simple. July 10, 2020: That website I linked to is gone. Here is a quote from the article taken from the Wayback Machine for August 18, 2013.
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The Second Amendment is not negotiable
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms — much like the Right of Free Speech — is not negotiable. Its protections are not subject to the whims of majority opinion, nor the screaming demands of hyperventilating media personalities. All the social media trolls and opinion writers in the world can comment all they want on the Second Amendment, yet the individual right to keep and bear arms remains immutable.
Just like the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment is not negotiable. No Governor, Senator or President has any power whatsoever to banish the Second Amendment, and any who attempt to oppose it only brand themselves as criminal traitors to the United States of America. Any active effort to eradicate the Second Amendment outside of law — without going through the proper process of state ratification for Constitutional amendments — is, by definition, an act of sedition against the United States of America and its people.
Ironically, many who viciously attack the Second Amendment do so by invoking their free speech protections under the First Amendment. Yet they seem blind to the realization that the First Amendment itself is only made possible by the Second Amendment which balances power between the People and the government, ensuring that the individual right to bear arms serves as a check and balance against the monopoly of violence every government inherently seeks.
Disarmament of the populace is always the first step to depriving them of their civil rights and human rights. Without the right to bear arms, there is no right to free speech, no right to due process, no right to trial by jury and certainly no right to be secured against unreasonable search and seizure. A government with a monopoly of force is a government that respects no boundaries and honors no limits.
Grasping this point requires competent thinking, which is why so many who now flourish in America on the popularity of pop culture idiocy fail to understand it. It is intellectually lazy to blame gun rights for violence, requiring no depth of thought or reason. Only someone of higher awareness and possessing the aptitude for multi-layered thinking can realize the critical importance of distributed firepower in stopping government violence against the People. As Ron Paul recently said, “Government security is just another kind of violence.”
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Chicodoodoo
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Re: The Second Amendment How about a Russian telling us that we'd be stupid fools to give up our guns? Would that turn any heads? This article has some relationship to Andy's post above, as you will see if you read it.
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