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Lee
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:16 pm Posts: 433
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Proxy Servers
Hi all..
Posts addressing some the issue's regarding polling and forum administration are getting lost with all the "ripping each other another one" going on..
Chico, You posted somewhere (I can never find anything) regarding sock puppets making polls irrelevant..
Does anyone think it would be a solution to not allow members with proxy servers to join the forum?? Or would it be better to have administrators list the members with proxy servers on the forum? Or does it not matter?
I don't know, I'm not technical...any ideas people?
Peace, Lee
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Tue May 01, 2012 4:20 am |
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Canzirka
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:08 pm Posts: 359
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Re: Proxy Servers
I've seen this discussed on other forums. Common problem from my understanding. Simple solution.....don't let them join.
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Tue May 01, 2012 4:48 am |
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Chicodoodoo
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Joined: Tue May 03, 2011 6:06 pm Posts: 11875
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Re: Proxy Servers
Thank you, Lee. I saw the need to bring this up as a separate thread, but I was hoping another member would do it first. I'm pleased that you did.
In real elections, each voter must be registered, and registration involves showing a valid ID to verify your identity. This helps prevent an individual from casting multiple votes. "One man, one vote" is required for a democratic vote where all voters have equal say.
At UP, registration is open to anyone and is anonymous. No background checks are currently done. We have what could be considered an "honor system" in place. An individual can register multiple times with multiple identities, as GW has demonstrated, easily circumventing the honor system. This would normally be of little importance, except in the case where members decide important issues with polls, which is exactly the case here at United People.
So, how do we guarantee that an individual can only cast one vote in any one poll?
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Tue May 01, 2012 4:58 am |
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Chicodoodoo
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Joined: Tue May 03, 2011 6:06 pm Posts: 11875
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Re: Proxy Servers
Not so simple. Not all proxy servers can be identified by IP address. Some proxy servers change their IP address regularly. Even if you filter out anyone joining with a known proxy IP address, there is still a problem. A small city can be serviced by an Internet provider showing a single IP address. For example, everyone in the Bahamas would show the same IP address if they join UP. Suppose we have five members from the Bahamas. Do we have five unique individuals, or is it just Andy Wight who has registered using five different accounts? (No offense intended, Andy.)
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Tue May 01, 2012 5:13 am |
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Lee
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:16 pm Posts: 433
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Re: Proxy Servers
Hmmm.....how do other forums block them?
Any other ways?
Lee
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Tue May 01, 2012 5:27 am |
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Grumplebum
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:45 pm Posts: 252 Location: South of the Equator
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Re: Proxy Servers
Hi Lee,
I really don't think it's all that important at the moment to be worried about. There aren't that many of us here.
Best regards.
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Tue May 01, 2012 7:56 am |
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Lee
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:16 pm Posts: 433
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Re: Proxy Servers
Hi Grumple..
Well, even less of us than we originally thought...lol.
It seems worth sorting out to me, if it's even possible. Peace, Lee
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Tue May 01, 2012 10:55 am |
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andywight
Joined: Wed May 04, 2011 5:40 pm Posts: 2156
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Re: Proxy Servers
I agree, especially if someone's banning comes up! maybe members who register using a proxy should be excluded from voting?
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Tue May 01, 2012 11:31 am |
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Grumplebum
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:45 pm Posts: 252 Location: South of the Equator
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Re: Proxy Servers
Hi andywight, As I see it, only one person here has access to people's IP's. If information about the IP of anybody is made public it could only have been leaked from one source. I'm sure that that person wouldn't leak said information as that would be political suicide. If people wish to make up 'sockpuppet' characters just to vote, they must have a very boring life. Have you seen what the votes are about? Not exactly important. Best regards.
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Tue May 01, 2012 11:38 am |
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Lee
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:16 pm Posts: 433
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Re: Proxy Servers
Why not sort it out while we have small numbers?
Easier to do it now, rather than later, I would think.
Lee
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Tue May 01, 2012 11:44 am |
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