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Hello Chico. I am Rose. Thank you for approving my membership.

You may not remember me, but you and I conversed on occasion during the "Charles" saga at Project Avalon. Subsequently, I participated in "The 18", Atticus1, Not Another Forum, with Charles/Atticus/Stephen and his significant other Rhiannon, as well as remained in contact with them on and off in the interim. Most recently, I invited them to participate in a forum I created in January and allowed Atticus/Houdini to use my site as his personal platform until the end of November when I forever and irrevocably broke all ties.


Irrevocably breaking ties with energy vampires is a step in the right direction. You were in a vulnerable place to begin with, Rose, e.g. to get sucked in by the vampiric energy of Atticus/Charles and, too, Charles' enabler at Avalon, Bill Ryan.

The need to believe in something different ... something that promises to uncage us from the psychological prison created by our captors - an organization of tribal Talmudic banksters at the core (e.g. self-chosen pseudoJewish alpha male wannabees abetted by a multicultural mishmash of beta male goyim mercenaries in tow) ... often leads the best of us into strange lands at times.

I discovered this the hard way myself at Avalon, where my need to believe in something different briefly disoriented my truthseeking compass and I wandered into a cesspool of kool-aid energy. Avalon, where submission is the first mission and scamming people is the second. A gated pasture if ever was one under the head shepherd and overlord, Sweet William of the 21st century Pendragons. Fortunately, I found my way out sooner than later.

I'm assuming that you are well clear of both kool-aid buckets (@Avalon and @Atticus) as you enter the realm of United Chico, still officially known as United People. Long departed from its virginal charter of free thought and truth pursuits, this forum has morphed into an oratorial cul-de-sac replete with honks and circle jerks chasing goose down.

Genuine truthseekers should enter at their own risk for the spinning energy here is finely woven into the fabric of fabrication. Indeed, most of the genuine truthseekers had abandoned this forum long ago. I'm only here myself because none of the other forums out there seem to have any solid claim to hostinbg the truths. For all of Chico's failure as a truthfinder - indeed, as a truthseeker - this forum still allows voice to the hard truths.

That's a credit to Chico's resolve to admit the hard truths into his forum ... or perhaps a pointer to his self-vectored masochism? For example, he continues to speak against Zionism from the near corner of his mouth while he endorses Zionism's many agents from the far corner. Confused? Compartmentalized? Or column-typing from the hidden fifth flank? Whatever the case, each time his arguments are minced, parts of his integrity are minced alongside. One has to be a masochist to remain amongst one's own ruins, wot? So be it.

You'll have to forgive me for the above preamble, Rose. But if you are genuinely interested in the truths, you will have to come tete-a-tete with the reality of Chico ... and his allegiances and understandings. And thems ain't purdy.


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I will refrain from going into gory details here. Suffice it to say, I recently deleted Stephen/Rhi and other pro-stephen members. The few who remain with me are now are not so. Also remaining with me is SilentGhost (LightestSon), you may remember from Avalon/Nexus who has been around Stephen since the beginning of the journey.

The site was on it's way to 3 million hits in October. Although Stephen believed all traffic to be due to him, we will reach 1 million hits this month in his absence.


The amount of hits shouldn't matter if the purpose of a forum is to foster the truths alongside good honest socializing/communitarian energy. I have to give kudos to Chico on that point, to be sure. It amazes me that this website still marches on with the minimum of outside scrutiny ... not just from the corrupted system scanning for potential threats to its shepherding authority, but also from the membership itself. There's probably only 3 or 4 active members left. Indeed, with your addition, this place has the potential to become alive for the first time in about two calendar years now. Relatively-speaking.

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I would like to inaugurate Version II of the forum with a discussion on the topic of sociopaths/psychopaths as I believe Stephen to be "minimally" a sociopath. I was quite accustomed to dealing with sociopaths, almost exclusively, during my days in quasi-governmental agencies and now I have another five year birds eye view. I invite your participation if you have an interest. I know of no one who speaks more eloquently than you on this subject. I have a 24 radio station running music at this time with plans in place for talk shows when time/membership is right.


The highlighted sentences in the paragraph above is essentially why I came out of my slumber to post. So let me get to it without further ado.

Are you serious, Rose?

Chico maybe a quantitatively-gifted expert on the subject matter of sociopathy/psychopathy (e.g. he feeds the Google-galloper many apples and gets much horse dung from the other end, all of which he then plasters over any forum and any topic on any forum that piques his interest) ... but he is also qualitatively-impaired as a speaker on the subject matter.

If you don't believe me, read his arguments and my counterarguments, and see whether his arguments are worthy of a speaker on the subject matter. I claim no special gift in understanding the subject matter, myself, granted, still, consistently dismantling his pseudo-arguments has given me some insights into what sociopathy really is ... and what it is being incorrectly promoted as being. The archives here hold that ongoing discussion betweeen Chico and myself, aplenty.

But I'll give you a little primer to prepare you against Chico's insanity and illogical courting of the subject matter.

Chico made the following post:
viewtopic.php?p=18517#p18517

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Here are excerpts from Hitler's speech four days after Pearl Harbor. We are always told Hitler is the epitome of evil, yet how many of us have ever listened to his actual words? We are instead told what to think of him, instead of studying his words and actions and judging for ourselves. His analysis of FDR is surprisingly accurate and insightful, especially when seen from our advantage of hindsight. Hitler is no madman. He's not even a sociopath. He has been deliberately vilified to draw attention away from the outrageous war crimes committed by the Allies. Hitler is the designated patsy, the Lee Harvey Oswald of World War II.
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Of course, Chico has already called me a sociopath many times on this forum. In short, according to Chico's criteria of evaluating sociopaths: Hitler is not a sociopath; Zook is a sociopath.

So my question is simple, Rose ... does Chico really know what he is talking about on the subject matter? Is he even cognizant of the meaning of the term, let alone eloquent?

Here's another link to apprise you of the gap between my limited application of sociopathy and Chico's free license and oft-libelous application: viewtopic.php?p=18821#p18821


Pax

ps: For your edification, here's the first post in a large thread that carries a good chunk of the discussion between Chico and myself (on the topic of sociopaths): viewtopic.php?p=8838#p8838

ps2: My post here is not to discourage discussion of the topic ... but to expose the charlatans that claim sociopathy is at the root of the present global evils, when in fact sociopathy has been with us since the dawn of human time and will be with us for a long time yet. Literature is abundant with references to good seeds and bad seeds; good and evil; morality and immorality; sinners and saints; etc. The coinage of sociopathy is a just a modern name to create a new industry from which money can be made through insinuation, pseudodiagnosis, and proposed treatment (e.g. Big Pharma).

ps3: Meanwhile, the immediacy of Full Spectrum Dominance can be attributed to secretive organization by the banksters, not sociopathy ... charlatan pronouncements and misdirects notwithstanding.

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Thank you for your endorsement, Zook! :thumbup: I must be doing something right for you to feel the driving need to stir from your heavy silence and make such a long-winded attempt at character assassination. You've clearly given it your best effort, which I find most intriguing. Why is that intriguing, you ask? Well, you must really feel threatened by a new member showing up, actually posting on the forum, and expressing an opinion that I might have something useful and knowledgeable to say about sociopathy. Yes, I can see why that might make you mighty uneasy, given all the attempts you have made to discredit my observations that you behave like a sociopath. And there it is again, you expose your psychology without meaning to by your own actions, exactly as I have pointed out so many times in this forum, much to your chagrin.

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For example, he continues to speak against Zionism from the near corner of his mouth while he endorses Zionism's many agents from the far corner. Confused?

Who wouldn't be, when you fundamentally lie? Your timing isn't so good, however, as I just logged in to post this. The synchronicity is delicious.

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But I'll give you a little primer to prepare you against Chico's insanity and illogical courting of the subject matter. Chico made the following post:
Hitler is no madman. He's not even a sociopath.

Zook, you are much too reserved. You started a whole thread on this. Why not point to it?

I really am flattered, Zook, that you have carefully crafted this prolific post on this minor occasion just to sway one person's opinion about insignificant little me.

But it's not about me, Zook. And despite your self-absorption and arrogance, it's never been about you either. It's about humanity and the cancer called sociopathy which cripples us as a species and steers us towards the grave.

I'm glad you're here, Zook. Thank you for your active voice. You cannot know how helpful it is.

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Thank you for your endorsement, Zook! :thumbup: I must be doing something right for you to feel the driving need to stir from your heavy silence and make such a long-winded attempt at character assassination.


There is no character assassination, Chico. The archives hold the reality far away from your opinion of me, and too, your opinion of yourself. Much of that reality consists of you attacking those that disagree with you, especially those who discombobulate your arguments to the point of no return combobulation.

I entrered this thread here for two reasons.

Universal has lost a lot of its truthseeking energy; and largely due to Wade's disproportionate presence there. I wouldn't mind it so much if he would allow genuine debate on the paragraphs he core dumps on the forum (crossposted across several forums). But he then starts whining when his mission to form a choir is disrupted by honest energy and independent voices. Choirmaster Wade apparently has some special status there that allows him to cross-post disinformation across several forums. How he obtained this special status is anybody's guess. Simply blaming Scott doesn't explain the strength of Wade's infection there. The membership (myself included) is also partially to blame for abandoning the forum for long periods of time thus allowing the rantings of a choirmaster to essentially displace the forum's original charter. So be it. It is what it is. But it does explain why I keep coming back to United Chico periodically. Here, I still have the chance to punch dishonest energy on the nose whenever I encounter it, and not have to worry about the fragile constitution of its main carrier.

You, Chico, have a skull of titanium steel filled with industrial strength cement. You can take a hammering and still come back with the same stale stupid arguments. Drop a piano off a cliff and you'll hear different notes after you put it together again. Drop a Chico off the same cliff and he'll come back nattering the same old notes ad nauseam ad infinitum ad decibellum. Wade, by contrast, is 90 parts pumpkin shell and 10 parts pumpkin guts and seeds. Drop him off the cliff and the seeds will explode all over the place. Better to cut the head off a Hydra, you only get two coming back. So be it. The end result of keeping Wade atop the cliff is a token forum at Universal, nothing more. Real debate has trickled to a halt over there.

The second reason I've returned here is to help people understand that Chico's grasp of sociopathy is so off-base, that it delivers the self-accredited author of Mein Kampf in sympathetic robes. In Chico's personal system of evaluating psychological mindsets, Hitler is not a sociopath.

Of course, it disturbs intellectual process when an above-threshold narcissist and megalomaniac like Adolf Hitler ... a warmonger who not only sought the restoration of Germany to its previous territorial holdings but an expansion into Russian territories (for conquest in the duty of Lebensraum) ... who espoused disturbing pseudometric views such as racial superiority (and inferiority); mental strength (and mental weakness) with the latter seen as a liability; a return to the jungle design of things where the tough feed on the meek; etc. ... it disturbs intellectual sense when such an obvious sociopath is presented as "not a sociopath". But that's exactly Chico's determination in his own words. Which naturally invites speculation on his understanding of the term and the topic. Chico's system has also determined yours truly to be a sociopath. *chuckle*

So I came back to apprise Rose of the quality of your sociopath finder, Chico.

If she is a genuine truthseeker, she will appreciate the information and reconsider inviting you to her forum.

But if she is only interested in getting hits to develop her own forum/website, then you may be the tonic. For the uninformed tend to make much more noise than signal, and noise attracts the crowds.

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You've clearly given it your best effort, which I find most intriguing. Why is that intriguing, you ask? Well, you must really feel threatened by a new member showing up, actually posting on the forum, and expressing an opinion that I might have something useful and knowledgeable to say about sociopathy. Yes, I can see why that might make you mighty uneasy, given all the attempts you have made to discredit my observations that you behave like a sociopath. And there it is again, you expose your psychology without meaning to by your own actions, exactly as I have pointed out so many times in this forum, much to your chagrin.


Your own arguments discredit you, Chico. I merely point back to the archives, here. The archives hold it.

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For example, he continues to speak against Zionism from the near corner of his mouth while he endorses Zionism's many agents from the far corner. Confused?

Who wouldn't be, when you fundamentally lie? Your timing isn't so good, however, as I just logged in to post this. The synchronicity is delicious.


You must be desperately stupid, and more desperate than stupid. I had already exposed David Duke many times over as a deeply-embedded asset of the corrupted system. The system desires a Pied Piper to rally the masses that are offended by it. But the system controls the Pied Piper, so in reality, the Pied Piper works for the system and reroutes the offended masses away from threatening the system. I already posted about Duke's earlier incarnation as the Grand Dragon of the KKK, an orgnization financed by the Talmudic banksters as part of their larger Scottish Rite of Freemasonry holdings. Duke is allowed extra latitude in his sermons against the system because he keeps the overall game under their control. If Duke genuinely posed a threat to the system, which he does not, he would be removed from his role as Pied Piper. If anything David Duke is more valuable to the bankstering emperors than most minions, and precisely because he perches on the racial fault line. Fault lines are a favorite target of The Divide and Conquerors. Excite the fault lines, keep the enemy divided. That sorta thing.

I already made those arguments. The archives here hold it. Here's a recent link pointing to my narrative of David Duke: viewtopic.php?p=18820#p18820

To wit, there is nothing to taste here, much less claim as being delicious. Just more of your gameplaying, Chico. Duke is part of the fifth column. You're part of the fifth column. Birds of a feather ....

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But I'll give you a little primer to prepare you against Chico's insanity and illogical courting of the subject matter. Chico made the following post:
Hitler is no madman. He's not even a sociopath.

Zook, you are much too reserved. You started a whole thread on this. Why not point to it?

I really am flattered, Zook, that you have carefully crafted this prolific post on this minor occasion just to sway one person's opinion about insignificant little me.

But it's not about me, Zook. And despite your self-absorption and arrogance, it's never been about you either. It's about humanity and the cancer called sociopathy which cripples us as a species and steers us towards the grave.

I'm glad you're here, Zook. Thank you for your active voice. You cannot know how helpful it is.



The imminent threat is secretive tribal organization ... not sociopathy. Bad seeds have always existed alongside the good seeds. This mutual co-existence will continue to play out for millennia yet, for all intents and purposes.

Those who seek to draw focus away from the imminent threat (posed by a tribal organization) and redirect it towards a timeless problem (of bad seeds) ... are doing the bidding of the corrupted system. Fifth columinsts are one such bidders. They are worthy of our contempt.


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Real debate has trickled to a halt over there.

That's a real shame. Universal Spectrum, rebellious son of Nexus (now apparently kaput), rebellious grandson of Avalon (still kicking), loses its way, just like all of its ancestors. The pattern is putrid.

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The second reason I've returned here is to help people understand that Chico's grasp of sociopathy is so off-base, that it delivers the self-accredited author of Mein Kampf in sympathetic robes. In Chico's personal system of evaluating psychological mindsets, Hitler is not a sociopath.

Yes, that's my analysis based on my research and my understanding of sociopathy. My understanding of sociopathy is based on a decade of study of all the psychology researchers and "experts" I can find. I read them all, I study them all, and I learn all I can. I also question them all, and I don't dismiss opposing views. Then I quote them all so that all sources are well documented and available for public scrutiny right here on this forum. Yet according to Uncle Zook, who does nothing of the kind, my grasp of sociopathy is "off-base" because I come to a conclusion that does not have wide appeal or consensus.

"An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers." -- Amanda Bloom

Very good, Zook. Looks like you must have the winning hand. I "call". Let's see your cards.

By the way, let me remind you that FDR was a sociopath, as was Stalin and Churchill. So the Allied leaders, all sociopaths, had to make Hitler into the epitome of evil. How would they do that? By accusing their opponent of their own malfeasance (and their own "condition"). They applied all their skills of deception and manipulation into making the public believe Hitler was a stark raving psychopath. And the public bought it.

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Of course, it disturbs intellectual process when an above-threshold narcissist and megalomaniac like Adolf Hitler ... a warmonger who not only sought the restoration of Germany to its previous territorial holdings but an expansion into Russian territories (for conquest in the duty of Lebensraum) ... who espoused disturbing pseudometric views such as racial superiority (and inferiority); mental strength (and mental weakness) with the latter seen as a liability; a return to the jungle design of things where the tough feed on the meek; etc. ... it disturbs intellectual sense when such an obvious sociopath is presented as "not a sociopath".

You're such a fool, Zook. Everything you "know" about Hitler has been delivered by the media you distrust and is steeped in propaganda. Your facts are not facts at all. And if your premise is faulty, all of your conclusions are bound to be faulty. And they are. You need to cut through the matrix of lies built around the character of Hitler and uncover the truth! But you won't, because the myth serves your agenda to discredit Chicodoodoo and aggrandize yourself. Do you really think no one can see what you're doing? Why yes, that is what you think. You believe you are such an accomplished game-player and manipulator that the sheep will never catch on. :lol: Good luck with that.

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So I came back to apprise Rose of the quality of your sociopath finder, Chico. If she is a genuine truthseeker, she will appreciate the information and reconsider inviting you to her forum.

Well, let me help you with that. Rose, my knowledge of sociopathy is at least an order of magnitude "off" from Uncle Zook's expertise in psychology, and you might want to seriously consider his appraisal of me before listening to a word I have to say.

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Your own arguments discredit you, Chico. I merely point back to the archives, here. The archives hold it.

Works for me. The archives of this forum are quite extensive, and they are all there in all their glory. Nothing has been censored, not a single post. Zook's multiple suspensions by the forum members, Zook's multiple "bustings", and so much more mischief from our beloved Zook is on display for anyone that will take the time to read and ponder. (And the same is there for Chicodoodoo.) And yet we love you, we keep the light on for you, and we let you rag on me to your heart's content. All because we believe that, in the pursuit of truth, everyone's voice should be heard. If I'm a charlatan, a deceiver, a manipulator, a disinformation machine, a fifth columnist, and a tool of the Zionist banksters (all of which Zook has accused me of), then by God, everyone needs to know about it.

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You must be desperately stupid, and more desperate than stupid. I had already exposed David Duke many times over as a deeply-embedded asset of the corrupted system.

Well, yes. You've exposed everyone that's ever come to the fore ( 1 2 3 etc. ). All are gatekeepers according to the mighty Zook. Only one person really escapes the Zook accusation of gatekeeping. Guess who that is? Starts with a "Z"...

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The imminent threat is secretive tribal organization ... not sociopathy. Bad seeds have always existed alongside the good seeds. This mutual co-existence will continue to play out for millennia yet, for all intents and purposes.

Those who seek to draw focus away from the imminent threat (posed by a tribal organization) and redirect it towards a timeless problem (of bad seeds) ... are doing the bidding of the corrupted system. Fifth columinsts are one such bidders. They are worthy of our contempt.

Talk about making the same old tireless arguments ad infinitum! You would be perfectly justified if those arguments had any validity, and didn't include worthless truisms that add nothing to the debate (like "Bad seeds have always existed alongside the good seeds."), or veiled ad hominems (like "Fifth columinsts are one such bidders. They are worthy of our contempt."). Really Zook, you are so transparent. Your actions continue to expose your psychology. Do yourself (and us) a favor and quit beating yourself!

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Glad you have kept this board up Chico! A credit to your constitution. I hope all is well and your in good health. I will do my best to contribute using analogies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

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I will do my best to contribute using analogies.

Why analogies? In my experience, analogies are often poor comparisons to use and prone to diverse interpretation. They are often used to deliberately deceive for those very reasons. I distrust analogies, because the premise that A is like B is often invalid or misleading. Why not avoid analogies and speak directly to A or B? From your link:

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An analogy is a spoken or textual comparison between two words (or sets of words) to highlight some form of semantic similarity between them. Such analogies can be used to strengthen political and philosophical arguments, even when the semantic similarity is weak or non-existent (if crafted carefully for the audience). Analogies are sometimes used to persuade those that cannot detect the flawed or non-existent arguments. -- source

I am reminded of Zook arguing that psychology is the study of the soul (and thus a "soft" or false science), which he based upon the analogical argument that the etymology of a word defines its meaning. This argument was absurd for the case of psychology, but it made perfect sense in Zook's mind.

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