hallucinogens: Its a tricky and big subject, so I will do my best.
I beleive some move you out of your space/time local to see how other realities work. Space time local being your fix point in consciousness. I think the toxicity of them move your body toward death so you can catch a glimpse of whats out there. During this time the Mainstream identity is more malleable and other Fringe ideas can be seeded or realized.
Its a slippery slope using this substance to realize different perspectives. Ive seen both sides with addiction and then creating more rigidity.
As far as Don Juan stuff he is part of a long lineage of knowledge so they have much power to create integrity in the other worlds.
Did you see the post with the animals and insects who eat natural occuring hallucinogens?
It could be argued that part of our evolution was due to eating this substance to expand awareness.
Personally this type of exploration would be fundamental in a society. Shamans or whatever you want to call them would replace the "teachers" in our world. Magamud
Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:54 pm
nongeneration
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Re: Hallucinogens, other substances & evolution
Yes I think there is a slippery slope concerning exploring such substances - especially in terms chemical imbalances.
MDMA does mess with your natural dopamine levels, I think the medical litature is still out on this but it could deplete dopamine levels.
Lucid dream enhancers, such as Mucuna Pruriens (a natural herb with many benefits other than for dreaming) work like L-Dopa, a precurser to dopamine. It also has a couple of forms of naturally occurring DMT. Galantamine, rumoured to be one of the drugs in homer's oddyssey, increases acetycholine which in turn stimulates dopamine.
Lucid dreaming can give you the keys to your subconsiouness mind and this could aid us in becoming more awake and aware and more rounded people, as well as the spiritual connection.
Yes I'm familiar with McKenna and Narby and how certain hallucinogens could be responsible for the sudden onset of human civilisation. It could work by space/time or it could work by connecting us to other consciousnesses - such as plants. Or it could help the brain tune into different frequencies or perhaps all explanations are derivations of the same force.
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:04 pm
nongeneration
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Re: Hallucinogens, other substances & evolution
Why can deaf people (who have been deaf all of their lives) experience verbal hallucinations, where does that phenomenon derive from? Tuning into another dimension? Remembering vestiges of past lives? Or just a normal facet of evolution?
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:07 pm
andywight
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Re: Hallucinogens, other substances & evolution
_________________ Think twice before you speak, especially if you intend to say what you think.
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Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:59 am
magamud
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Re: Hallucinogens, other substances & evolution
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or perhaps all explanations are derivations of the same force.
I think so, we just dont know how this space/time thing works. I think it's an ancient knowledge with shamanism and systematically destroyed by the Monarchs with indigenous cultures. I think basic secularism is supported and funded to separate the gap, while supporting fantasy in entertainment.
I think this knowledge is evolutionary for some of our species....
_________________ Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:27 am
andywight
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Re: Hallucinogens, other substances & evolution
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_________________ Think twice before you speak, especially if you intend to say what you think.
I'm really not a fan of Stephen Fry - in his QI quiz show he can definitely be accused of confirming the status quo and ridiculing anything contrary. I sometimes see Stephen Fry wandering around West Hampstead, I may accost him and force him to tell me all his secrets!
Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:33 pm
nongeneration
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I think this knowledge is evolutionary for some of our species....
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