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The uninterrupted choir of cupids notwithstanding, CEFIP 1909 as per Norman Dodd's exposee ... essentially seals the deal that Hitler's rise was pre-planned to create a war theatre in Europe from which a new civilization would emerge. And that's exactly what happened.

You're blowing pretty hard there, Mr. Blowhard. Let's see your evidence to back up this monumental claim, that Hitler's rise was pre-planned in 1909.


I already presented links to Norman Dodd's exposee multiple times on this forum. The content in those links explicitly refer to 1909. But even at the website that you yourself link here, we have the following quote admitting Norman Dodd's investigation. As expected, like every other compromised organ of historical records and controlled watchdog of said records, in ZOG America, the website at sourcewatch is reluctant to give Dodd the immense credit he deserves for exposing the plans of the bankster elites.

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Theories of the Endowment's involvement in the instigation of World War I stem from a 1982 interview of Norman Dodd, former staff director of the Congressional Special Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations (1954), conducted by conservative political commentator, G. Edward Griffin. Dodd maintained that in the year 1908: "the trustees ... raised a specific question, which they discussed throughout the balance of the year.... Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people? And they conclude that, no more effective means to that end is known to humanity, than war. So then, in 1909, they raise the second question, and discuss it, namely, how do we involve the United States in a war?." [4]

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http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom ... er-fronts/

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The sinister Carnegie Endowment Fund

Underling Kathryn Casey was also working for Dodd on the Reece Committee. Dodd was told by the chairman of the Carnegie Endowment Fund that it would open its minutes and books to a member of his team to cooperate with their investigation. What she discovered was also shocking. In their 1908 minutes, she found the following questions written, as spoken by the leaders of the Carnegie tax exempt foundation: “Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?” and “The conclusion was that war was the most effective”. In their 1909 minutes, she also found: “How do we involve the US in a war?”, “We must control the State Department” and “We must control diplomatic machinery”. Casey also found further evidence that the Carnegie tax exempt foundation resolved to aim at that as an objective. They dispatched a telegram to President Wilson to encourage him to see that WWI did not end too quickly! Dodd also found stated in the minutes that in 1919 the Carnegie Fund wanted to prevent a return in America to life pre-1914.

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Whether the Carnegie Endowment For International Peace was unofficially considered in 1908, 1909, or officially established in 1910 ... has trivial relevance to the actual information that Norman Dodd exposed. Information that existed in 1909 in the minutes of a meeting of members of a band of bankster elites. As we see in the second excerpt, it was the sinister Carnegie Endowment Fund which was involved in the Dodd-exposed meetings before any official establishment of CEFIP.

But leave it to a fifth columnist to morrisdance over the salient facts of Dodd's exposee and try to find technical grounds to dismiss those same facts.

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I see the CEIP was allegedly founded in 1910. Not a good start so far, Zook. But let's examine whatever CEIP minutes you can provide and see exactly what we are talking about here. Once again, do tell (and I'm still waiting on the other do tells...)


No ... you're not waiting on anything, Chico. You're fabricating stuff as it arrives in your mind.

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I hope your evidence is more convincing than the other two links you provided, one alleging with no proof that Putin is a Jew and thus aligned with the ruling Jewish sociopaths (a non-sequitur, as being Jewish does not guarantee such alignment), and the other suggesting that he may own an expensive property (though no evidence is provided, just allegations). Did you even read those articles? I have to assume that you didn't, as they really don't flatter your pompous grand-standing.


Yours is just more hot air from a high-flying balloon.

I read the articles and actually understood them. I suggest you read them on the jog this time around. Sprinting appears to have compressed your critical faculties.

For someone who drones incessantly about considering everything and dismissing nothing, your early and casual dismissal of Putin's documented puppet strings ... is just another instance of hypocrisy that we've come to expect from you.


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I already presented links to Norman Dodd's exposee multiple times on this forum.

So you are saying you have no evidence other than the word of an American banker who worked for American politicians during the Red Scare chasing after Communists supposedly operating in non-profit American corporations?

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Whether the Carnegie Endowment For International Peace was unofficially considered in 1908, 1909, or officially established in 1910 ... has trivial relevance to the actual information that Norman Dodd exposed.

Oh? We have people making claims based on the 1908 and 1909 minutes of an organization that wasn't even founded and funded until November of 1910. Generally, organizations do not do minutes of their meetings until they actually exist as an organization.

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No ... you're not waiting on anything, Chico. You're fabricating stuff as it arrives in your mind.

Accusing me of your own malfeasance again? I'm waiting for your explanations and evidence, which you may be fabricating as it arrives in your mind. Let me remind you that I wanted to hear exactly what you believe Hitler's quote ("Conscience is a Jewish invention") means and how you can be so sure, and you also offered to tell us why "Hitler's natural death in Argentina could not have occurred under either the mainstream's or Chico's understanding of Nazi Germany." Both questions are in this post.

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I read the articles and actually understood them.

No, you read the articles (Putin a pawn of the Jews and Putin's alleged billion dollar mansion) and accepted them as undeniable fact. That's quite different from understanding them.

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For someone who drones incessantly about considering everything and dismissing nothing, your early and casual dismissal of Putin's documented puppet strings ... is just another instance of hypocrisy that we've come to expect from you.

Ah, of course, accusing me of your own malfeasance again. You believe everything you read when it suits your argument, and you dismiss anything you read when it does not suit your argument. You aren't pursuing the truth, you're pursuing a victory. It's all about winning the game to you, and I understand why.

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There are those that want to see Hitler demonized.

There are those that want to see Hitler lionized.

Then there are those that want the truths.

One thing we can readily observe, is that the demonizers and the lionizers share a common objective, and that is to paint Hitler as a self-made defender of the German people.

The zioPress wants to push Hitler into Hell's furnace and emerge a ceramic gargoyle to be feared for generations on end. The cupidPress wants to lift Hitler into Heaven's clouds and emerge the vision of a white angel (with a small black moustache) to be idolized for generations on end.

The truthseekers want to establish the factual evidence. That said, the preponderance of evidence concludes that Hitler was not a self-made defender of the German people. That he was, in fact, financed by his very demonizers is well documented. The demonizers financing the object of their demonization. But isn't that a paradox, one may ask? No. Not if one recognizes the false flag template in operation. The Talmudic banksters use this template like a thirsty man uses a glass of water.

So, if Hitler was not self-made, then why would the cupidPress paint him as being self-made. Surely, the cupidPress represents the good guys, no? Not at all. On the contrary, the cupidPress represents the cupids; moreover, it has been infiltrated to a large extent by the nonCupid fifth columnists who pose as journalists for the cupidPress. These fifth columnists actually belong to the zioPress, but they wouldn't be fifth columnists if they wore zioPress credentials, now, would they? Right.

In short, anyone that paints Hitler as a self-made defender of the German people, is doing so in contempt of the voluminous, documented evidence. Indeed, a free clue to idiocy - and to fifth column writing - is the promotion of Hitler as a self-made defender of the German people.

When this putative defender gets lionized, he is serving the interests of the Talmudist bankstering elites who want to isolate Germany from the rest of the world; and when he gets demonized, he is also serving the interests of the Talmudist bankstering elites who want to isolate Germany from the rest of the world. The isolation of Germany is the key thing to understand here, because this isolation does not care what form it takes, in the demonization of Hitler (for the rest of the world) or in the lionization of Hitler (for Germany).

Of course, both the demonization and lionization protocols exist in contempt of the observable evidence.

Which brings us to Putin. Same template. Same connections to the Talmudist bankstering elites. Different times. Different megalomaniac/sociopath. Different spot on the axis of full spectrum dominance envisioned by the Talmudists more than a century-and-a-half ago.


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In short, anyone that paints Hitler as a self-made defender of the German people, is doing so in contempt of the voluminous, documented evidence.

Most of that "voluminous, documented evidence" is propaganda, and should indeed be held in contempt.

If you want to see the documented evidence of Hitler as a self-made defender of the German people, you need to look at the documentation of his life before he became important. I've already told you this, but I can see it didn't register. No one was financing him then. Almost no one was paying attention to him, and that's why documentation from that earlier period is closer to the truth than the "voluminous, documented evidence" produced by the Zionist propaganda industry after 1932.

Besides, there are other reasons for connections between Hitler and the Zionists that you conveniently ignore. Your oversimplifications are shameful, but I am sure that you feel no shame whatsoever.

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Which brings us to Putin. Same template.

So if you can be so wrong about Hitler, you can also be so wrong about Putin. In fact, the way you reason, it is almost guaranteed.

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Washington, clandestine creators of ISIL / ISIS / IS, or whatever they call their pet boogieman, who they arm to the teeth with modern U.S. weapons and then tell Americans what fearful terrorists they are "but don't worry we'll protect you" -- yes, that Washington talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. Moscow watches quietly and patiently for months, then steps in and does what Washington promises to do but never delivers -- precision surgical strikes against ISIS weapon caches (weapons supplied by the U.S., of course, which is why the U.S. never attacks such targets). All Washington can do is stand there with mud on its face and make stupid reactionary accusations, like "Now you've done it, fighting terrorists without having a comprehensive end-plan!"

ISIS has been stealing oil from Lybia, trucking it to Turkey, selling it Turkey (a NATO member and U.S. ally) for cash, and then funding its operations with that same cash by buying supplies and weapons from the United States, which takes the money with a sly wink while telling the American public via the controlled mainstream media that "we" are bravely fighting the ISIS terrorists!

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The hypocrisy is numbing.




BREAKING: Russia's Huge Announcement That Will Change The War

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American pilots flying over Iraq and Syria have quietly leaked their story for over a year now but no news agency will carry it. They say they have flown over oil tanker convoys 4 lanes wide at times and been told to stay silent.

They report mysterious aircraft dropping supplies to ISIS and al Nusra, they are silenced on that as well.

Hardly surprising. Add in the fact that the Pentagon consistently airdrops ISIS weapons and equipment “by accident”, and one begins to question how serious this “anti-ISIS coalition” really is. -- source

It's not serious at all. The American war on terror is a massive deception. America is the terrorist. At least the government of America is, and there we are talking the policy makers. The leaders. The ruling sociopaths or their minions. Minions like Obama, McCain, Brzezinski, Biden, Kerry, Clinton, and a whole mass of other sell-outs who serve the worst of humanity -- the sociopaths.

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Washington, clandestine creators of ISIL / ISIS / IS, or whatever they call their pet boogieman, who they arm to the teeth with modern U.S. weapons and then tell Americans what fearful terrorists they are "but don't worry we'll protect you" -- yes, that Washington talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. Moscow watches quietly and patiently for months, then steps in and does what Washington promises to do but never delivers -- precision surgical strikes against ISIS weapon caches (weapons supplied by the U.S., of course, which is why the U.S. never attacks such targets). All Washington can do is stand there with mud on its face and make stupid reactionary accusations, like "Now you've done it, fighting terrorists without having a comprehensive end-plan!"

ISIS has been stealing oil from Lybia, trucking it to Turkey, selling it Turkey (a NATO member and U.S. ally) for cash, and then funding its operations with that same cash by buying supplies and weapons from the United States, which takes the money with a sly wink while telling the American public via the controlled mainstream media that "we" are bravely fighting the ISIS terrorists!

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The hypocrisy is numbing.




BREAKING: Russia's Huge Announcement That Will Change The War



Typical gatekeeper mumbo jumbo that we've come to expect from you, Chico.

The above video is rife with propaganda, not least the constant drone of the narrator reminding the sheeple that ISIS is an Islamic terror "state".

I've already presented evidence from Jim Stone's website that exposes the Zionist-manufactured intelligence agency scam that is ISIS ... from the fake Hollywood-staged beheading video ... to the photographed meeting between ISIS's purported leader Baghdadi (yet another cryptoJew posing as a Muslim leader; so what else is new??) and Senator John McCain ... to the multiple demonstrable false flag attacks that have been attributed to teh so-called ISIS, etc. The manufactured bogeyman, The Brotherhood of Orwell's 1984, coming to life as a golem to wreak havoc on the world, in a manner of speaking.

I also exposed Putin earleir in this thread, not least with this post: viewtopic.php?p=18863#p18863

Putin has not disappointed in showing us his Zionist affiliations wrt ISIS. He is playing his part to subtly establish ISIS as a genuine rebellion of the Islamic world against the nonIslamic world, when there is no such factual rebellion. The good Russian people better find discernment soon and take care of Putin before he takes care of them.

That being said, genuine truthseekers don't parrot propaganda, Chico. We expose it for what it is. By contrast, the fifth column seeks to establish ISIS in the minds of the sheeple, as per the Zionist dictates and meme of Clash of Civilizations. You've been parroting and establishing the Zionist narratives for a long time now, mostly in subtle ways to keep your fifth column visible only to those with discernment. It's a sad commentary on our times that the ranks of the discerning class have not increased signifcantly in the past decade or so; for if they had, you would have folded your operation long ago for lack of sheeple traction. You can only spin the wheels for so long before the rubber wears out. So be it.

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ps: The narrative of Turkey, stolen oil, and stolen-oil financing of ISIS ... is as real as moon cheese.

ps2: Three types essentially abide this fake fromage narrative: the extremely gullible, the dime-a-dozen cowardly, and the fifth column crickets chirping from cracks in the crepescule.

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I've already presented evidence from Jim Stone's website that exposes the Zionist-manufactured intelligence agency scam that is ISIS ... from the fake Hollywood-staged beheading video ... to the photographed meeting between ISIS's purported leader Baghdadi (yet another cryptoJew posing as a Muslim leader; so what else is new??) and Senator John McCain ... to the multiple demonstrable false flag attacks that have been attributed to teh so-called ISIS, etc.

Good for you, Zook! And potentially good for us (links please). Deception should be exposed as widely as possible to diminish its efficacy.

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I also exposed Putin earleir in this thread, not least with this post: viewtopic.php?p=18863#p18863

You made some allegations, but you didn't support them in any kind of convincing manner. Essentially, you oversimplified to the point of absurdity. Your pride in your exposure is misplaced.

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Putin has not disappointed in showing us his Zionist affiliations wrt ISIS. He is playing his part to subtly establish ISIS as a genuine rebellion of the Islamic world against the nonIslamic world, when there is no such factual rebellion. The good Russian people better find discernment soon and take care of Putin before he takes care of them.

Sounds like you have it all figured out, Zook. Awesome. But I suggest you question:

  • your certainty,
  • the accuracy of the information you possess,
  • and the amount of information that you do not possess.


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That being said, genuine truthseekers don't parrot propaganda, Chico. We expose it for what it is. By contrast, the fifth column seeks to establish ISIS in the minds of the sheeple, as per the Zionist dictates and meme of Clash of Civilizations. You've been parroting and establishing the Zionist narratives for a long time now, mostly in subtle ways to keep your fifth column visible only to those with discernment. It's a sad commentary on our times that the ranks of the discerning class have not increased signifcantly in the past decade or so; for if they had, you would have folded your operation long ago for lack of sheeple traction. You can only spin the wheels for so long before the rubber wears out. So be it.

What is the purpose of falsely attacking the messenger, namely me? This is such an important part of your game, as you resort to it in almost every post. Can't you simply demonstrate how my narrative is in error? Slandering me personally doesn't do that, and it undermines your credibility. You do remember how much you depend on credibility to sell your wares, right?

By the way, I think you could benefit from a lesson on parroting.

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ps: The narrative of Turkey, stolen oil, and stolen-oil financing of ISIS ... is as real as moon cheese.

Your evidence, please? Your word is not sufficient, nor is dismissing the entire ISIS oil narrative upon finding any inconsistency.

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ps2: Three types essentially abide this fake fromage narrative: the extremely gullible, the dime-a-dozen cowardly, and the fifth column crickets chirping from cracks in the crepescule.

Shame on you for trying to shame others if they don't buy your narrative. Don't you realize that such a ploy is one of the sociopath's most common tactics? That's a rhetorical question, of course, as I realize why you can't realize it.

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I've already presented evidence from Jim Stone's website that exposes the Zionist-manufactured intelligence agency scam that is ISIS ... from the fake Hollywood-staged beheading video ... to the photographed meeting between ISIS's purported leader Baghdadi (yet another cryptoJew posing as a Muslim leader; so what else is new??) and Senator John McCain ... to the multiple demonstrable false flag attacks that have been attributed to teh so-called ISIS, etc.

Good for you, Zook! And potentially good for us (links please). Deception should be exposed as widely as possible to diminish its efficacy.


I usually provide excerpts from links ... from which my arguments and commentary then derive. So your request for links is not a genuine request, Chico. You know it and I know it. If readers genuinely want to pursue my arguments, they already have the required links.

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I also exposed Putin earleir in this thread, not least with this post: viewtopic.php?p=18863#p18863

You made some allegations, but you didn't support them in any kind of convincing manner. Essentially, you oversimplified to the point of absurdity. Your pride in your exposure is misplaced.


In these days of system-wide corruptions and deceptions, it is curious that you would extend benefit of doubt to the system and remove same from those who seek to expose the system. FWIW, there was no point of absurdity in my exposition; not even points of mere possibility. On the contrary, mine almost always carries the argument into the high probability cloud (e.g. of small radius). I don't pretend to know the exact location of each reality point I make, just that it exists in the probability cloud.

Of course, as an obfuscator (e.g. a mixer of facts and fictions, the former to abet the latter) - and one likely commissioned and drawing paychecks from Cass Sunstein Propaganda Ministries - it is probably in your job description, Chico, to cast doubt on the arguments made by outsiders looking in through the foggy glass; and equally, to protect the insiders by wiping the glass regularly with a dirty rag, e.g. to maintain its translucence.

So be it. You made your deal with the red coat. Might as well wear it.

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Putin has not disappointed in showing us his Zionist affiliations wrt ISIS. He is playing his part to subtly establish ISIS as a genuine rebellion of the Islamic world against the nonIslamic world, when there is no such factual rebellion. The good Russian people better find discernment soon and take care of Putin before he takes care of them.

Sounds like you have it all figured out, Zook. Awesome. But I suggest you question:


Not all of it. But I do have much of it figured out. My discernment of patterns rarely disappoints the truth(s).

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  • your certainty,
  • the accuracy of the information you possess,
  • and the amount of information that you do not possess.


My patterns are strong precisely because I question my certainty, the accuracy of my information, and the sufficiency of my information. IOW, before my patterns are tabled for public discussion, they have been tested for integrity. As a rule, my patterns are are a window into reality. Of course, all rules have exceptions. And in those exceptional occasions where a pattern fails reality, I concede my error ... this is in contrast with yourself, who will badger on with an argument even when it fails. Your arguments of sociopathy and uncertainty, cases in point of arguments that are obliterated by rational counterarguments (such as the factual observable arguments of organization.and warranted certainty).

I notice that - long after I had sliced your pair of staple arguments into tiny bits - even you now often refer to the ruling elites as ORGANIZED sociopaths. No surprise there, after all, sociopathy without organization has no power capable of large-scale tyranny. The small-scale stuff has been with us for millennia ... and perhaps will be for millennia to come. Of course, fools fixate on stuff that is not within their purview to manage. The wise defer to genetic and memetic evolution. But do carry on. I know you will. You have an agenda to feed.

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That being said, genuine truthseekers don't parrot propaganda, Chico. We expose it for what it is. By contrast, the fifth column seeks to establish ISIS in the minds of the sheeple, as per the Zionist dictates and meme of Clash of Civilizations. You've been parroting and establishing the Zionist narratives for a long time now, mostly in subtle ways to keep your fifth column visible only to those with discernment. It's a sad commentary on our times that the ranks of the discerning class have not increased signifcantly in the past decade or so; for if they had, you would have folded your operation long ago for lack of sheeple traction. You can only spin the wheels for so long before the rubber wears out. So be it.

What is the purpose of falsely attacking the messenger, namely me? This is such an important part of your game, as you resort to it in almost every post. Can't you simply demonstrate how my narrative is in error? Slandering me personally doesn't do that, and it undermines your credibility. You do remember how much you depend on credibility to sell your wares, right?


There is no false accusation, Chico. You earned the admonition of genuine truthseekers long ago with your apologia on behalf of the system's many gatekeepers (on spurious arguments of uncertainty). I'm merely one representative of the genuine community ... but I guarantee that the community as a whole understands you in the way that I do.

But for me, personally, the tipping point in my evaluation of you and your integrity was your remark about Hitler not being a sociopath. Poor misunderstood righteous Hitler. Acclaimed author of Mein Kampf ... with arbitrary nonempathic views spanning racial division and racial superiority (and inferiority). Yeah, a real empath, that one. The only angel in the realms of glory ... with a toothbrush moustache. Of course, the factual record of his many tethers to the bankster empire must all be liquid-papered over first before this apparent Hitler can be found - sleeping on his wings on the soft puffs of Cloud Nine - but I'm not sure there's enough production factories to supply the amount needed for the whitewash. But leave it to the witless wonders to be charmed by a
story ... and the fifth column quills and inkwells to charm them.

Nay, Chico, your zeal to pigeonhole individuals as sociopaths and nonsociopaths - with arbitrary parameters - has locked you out of the room of relevance. You have fully earned it.


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By the way, I think you could benefit from a lesson on parroting.

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ps: The narrative of Turkey, stolen oil, and stolen-oil financing of ISIS ... is as real as moon cheese.

Your evidence, please? Your word is not sufficient, nor is dismissing the entire ISIS oil narrative upon finding any inconsistency.

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ps2: Three types essentially abide this fake fromage narrative: the extremely gullible, the dime-a-dozen cowardly, and the fifth column crickets chirping from cracks in the crepescule.

Shame on you for trying to shame others if they don't buy your narrative. Don't you realize that such a ploy is one of the sociopath's most common tactics? That's a rhetorical question, of course, as I realize why you can't realize it.


There is no ploy by me to shame people (sheeple or otherwise). Just honest hard-nosed reality-pursuing opinions from a genuine truthseeker on the outside looking in through foggy glass. My gift is that my error rate is lower than most as I peer through the foggy glass.

To wit, the shame is earned by the people themselves (sheeple or otherwise).

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Gotta luv ya, Zook! You are not going to change, because you can't. I hate it when I'm right about sociopathy, because the truth is so repulsive.

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I usually provide excerpts from links ... from which my arguments and commentary then derive. So your request for links is not a genuine request, Chico.

I see.

No links. No excerpts. Only self-praise for your marvelous capabilities, and disdain for your opponents, who you accuse of your own malfeasance throughout your post. "You know it and I know it." And our readers are easily aware of it as well.

It's such a shame, Zook. All those wasted talents, all because of a psychological deviancy. It seems so unfair.

So what are you doing nowadays? Are you still hanging out at Universal Spectrum? Have you gone back to Nexus, or Avalon? Have you not found a place where you can be admired for your flowery speech, slippery obfuscation, and forked tongue? Have you tried Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or the circus? Truth be told, your place is in politics, where con-men beguile hapless innocents of their dreams and wealth. Of course, I wouldn't wish that on humanity. It's better that you stay occupied here, letting fly your slings and arrows against the evil Chicodoodoo. After all, I am "locked out of the room of relevance." What better place for you, Zook, n'est-ce pas?
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