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I think the best bet to get people into concentration camps would be from a Crisis. A crisis so big that it would require everyone to be identified, screened to receive food or better yet a chip.
You would need to have a loyal corpse of Political Soldiers ready to serve. Is this why the FBI Fusion military Centers have booklets describing these Terrorist very specifically?
A North American Union would suspend any Constitution here in the US or anywhere else.
The intel is all there already. If you are on the Grid, they have what you buy, where you go, medical, psychological profiles. And if you are off the Grid, they would suspect, why off the grid.
You would have to go Dark in a sense, compete cameleon with the system so a Behavior Profiler could not identify you as Out of the Box.
I would do this, but the information is to important to hide.

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Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:12 pm
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A crisis so big that it would require everyone to be identified, screened to receive food or better yet a chip.


You got it Mag. Once that "crisis' hits, that is the end of life as we know it, and any hope of "changing" anything in society. I believe that is exactly what we are heading for, and to be ready to meet that takes some ultra serious thinking and preparation work. No chip for this guy, as I can survive well without society, and I am not talking about having a "little garden'' going. All a food source does is invite others to ''partake'', and what good is a food source with dead bodies all around it? I have many food sources across miles of countryside and places to disappear to when the going get's rough. If you fail to plan....you plan to fail.


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Being off grid could go two ways and probably both. They are to busy consolidating cities and will get to you later. Or they have Special Ops preemptive in place to take you out first. They will distract us, that China will take over, or Russia, with Middle East Terrorist dressed like Shirley Temple in every neighborhood stuff. In the Meantime all the other countries are doing the same thing but their all in cahoots together. They will do this until their internal systems are cleaned and organized then they will begin to legitimize all their talk for the last Century and start war again.

In lumping the Zionist in there too...

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Being off grid could go two ways and probably both.


Mag, the trick is to be able to "disappear" for a time. That is why wise survivalists are always around places where they can disappear in a hurry. Only an idiot tries to outgun the military. Once things swing into motion, and we have prepared all fronts, it will be possible to "dodge" the hound dogs. They don't count on very many having done their homework right, and they are right in assuming that.
It may take a small army to claim victory over my dead body, but then again...it would have taken a small army. 8-) Ask Chico who is "invincible''. :)


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Ask Chico who is "invincible''. :)

Whoa, Nellie! We need to put that rumor to bed right away. Chico is not "invincible". He is as vulnerable as anyone else. We are strong when we protect each other, when we contribute to the common good, and when we are united.

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The thing with the monotheistic traditions is their insistance that only one God can be correct. This attitude makes reconcilliation impossible. Communism and socialism have a similar problem, a wave of consciousness changing has to permiate to a state where everyone understands (i.e. believes they understand) that egalitarian sharing of all resources is necessary.

Notice the propoganda involved with what this conversion (or forced conversion) is identified as being called. For religions it is a type of rapture, cynically this rapture was captured by the Crusades where a person was done in horribly and given an opportunity for the grace of God as they were tortured. In Athiest systems this conversion is termed a change of consciousness....a realization that what we desire is characterized by child like ignorance.... something we had better realize by the time the Bolsheveks decide it is time!!

Illuminati philosopher (if you can call him a philosopher, many don't) Hegel even recites how it is that we can become one with God finally, and how the process of how this happens determines our thinking. Slowly our dialectic works up to a point where alas we recognize that the dialectic is unified in Christian theology..... we unify all aspects, the thesis antithesis and new consciousness in Christ consciousness....

With this type of thinking we are screwed. The idea thaat all things come to a head in any one system of gnosis is false and dangerous. hegel almost derstroyed philosophy with it (for example) and any religion that claims likewise really intends to destroy us.


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Well put DSI,
Hopefully some Singularist know that ackowledging Oneess is a process. So in that sense there are virtuous levels of existence Prepondering in the scale of Atheism and the One God. The thing is, we are in a cyclic pattern with consciousness. More to the tune of a conscious harvest. So in a sense there is the seeding time and the harvest time. In these times Singularity awareness rules all the subsets. In between, the Subsets feel they are at equal plane. Unfortunately for some and fortunate for others we are coming back to a Zero Point again. The signs are all there so calling it ridiculous could wind up paying someone quite a lot of interest in their investment.

Good times....

To add, I generally do not find real Truth in peoples projections of Oneness. It appears most people get their info from a Passive aggressive Pastor killing you with kindness type of thing. Very few have been able to tease these projections out with someone grounded in Wisdom...

Secondly if believing in this "Oneness" goes against every sovereign fiber in your body, so what! Who could not get along with you? I could grow food with you or be the local sherrif with you. And if we got into our belief system at the core we would both use the same amount of denial opposing each other. So where is the problem?

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So where is the problem?

Sometimes, beliefs can produce actions that are socially damaging. An example would be religions that preach non-believers are vermin. When that idea leads to discriminatory behavior against other people, it is a big problem.

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Sometimes, beliefs can produce actions that are socially damaging. An example would be religions that preach non-believers are vermin. When that idea leads to discriminatory behavior against other people, it is a big problem.


I agree Chico. it's like lining up a a few billion blind people and asking them to describe the sky which none have ever seen. Which one of them has the say as to what is true? Personal believes often mean nothing when compared to reality. This is why we all must always be open to learn. Have your believes, but be ready for "truth'' to find you. :)


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When that idea leads to discriminatory behavior against other people, it is a big problem.

Where is the problem was meaning from my POV. And more the micro dynamics of my interactions. Your comment is the basic observation of Corruption in religion, which im not. I think you missed the whole point Chic.
The point was arguing that someone coming from a singularity position is always dogmatic, or something like that. I was suggesting what is the difference between any belief systems? And why cant I practice mine? Is it because its all encompassing? Makes people feel inferior? I can co exist with anyone for any Human endeavor, so again who gives a shit what I practice in my corner of UP? Am I discriminating?
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