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Author:  magamud [ Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Tyranny

This was posted from Carol at the Mysts of Avalon. I think it points to how deep the Social engineering is and how the world is not as it seems.


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Obituary


In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."

The Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.


Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29

Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1


Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

Please help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to ourfreedom..

This is truly scary


These masters of social engineering have always had themselves their hidden armies. This is a good example how they use the smart and the poor, to the Mob and the orderly to stay in power.

The system is completely fixed. People believing there is freedom of choice keep the lie going.

Author:  Chicodoodoo [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tyranny

magamud wrote:
A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.

That is pretty accurate for low-consensus (simple majority) democracy. However, it is not true for high-consensus democracy.

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The system is completely fixed. People believing there is freedom of choice keep the lie going.

The system is not fixed, but it is rigged. Many choices are severely limited, but that does not mean there is no freedom of choice. For example, take voting for the U.S. president. If you buy into the wide-spread propaganda that you must vote for either the Democrat or the Republican candidate, then your choice is so limited that it is almost non-existent, since both candidates represent the money. There are other candidates on the ballot, and you are free to choose one of them. There is also supposed to be a write-in box, so you have complete freedom of choice to vote for anybody you want. The freedom of choice is there, but almost no one exercises it. Why? Because they have been cleverly mind-controlled.

Author:  magamud [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tyranny

Chic,
We have different pov's on how much corruption there is in the system. The "freedoms" you point out, I believe are just counter measures to maintain the status quo.

And I am not sure on why you do not see it too, as you have insight into tyranny and see the levels of 911 and such, but it appears you cant organize the complexity of it.
Which points to your posts of this day.


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The freedom of choice is there, but almost no one exercises it.

Thats a ruse. The court system is a lie. The political system is a lie. The system is a lie.

I feel one of the reasons no one exercises it, is because unconsciously they know its a scam....

Author:  Chicodoodoo [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tyranny

magamud wrote:
Chic, we have different pov's on how much corruption there is in the system.

I suspect we would both agree that the system is corrupted through and through.

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The "freedoms" you point out, I believe are just counter measures to maintain the status quo.

Do you mean the voting example I gave? From one perspective, you are right. If the way we vote can actually have no effect on the election results, meaning Obama gets re-elected even if every voter writes in Ron Paul, then the freedoms I mention are indeed just window dressing.

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And I am not sure on why you do not see it too, as you have insight into tyranny and see the levels of 911 and such, but it appears you cant organize the complexity of it.

Or perhaps I am seeing more complexity than the average bear.

Chicodoodoo wrote:
The freedom of choice is there, but almost no one exercises it.
Magamud wrote:
Thats a ruse. The court system is a lie. The political system is a lie. The system is a lie.

Yes, all of those systems are full of deception. Those deceptions manipulate us into not exercising the freedoms we have. For example, we have the freedom to revolt. But if we are convinced that the situation does not warrant a revolt, or that revolt is hopeless or impossible, we won't do it. By controlling our minds, they control our actions.

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I feel one of the reasons no one exercises it, is because unconsciously they know its a scam....

It's hard to say what they unconsciously realize, but consciously many are unaware of the scam. They believe the propaganda because they are unaware that it is propaganda. That's a big part of the deception.

Author:  magamud [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tyranny

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just window dressing.

Yes a Facade...

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Or perhaps I am seeing more complexity than the average bear.

Perhaps...

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That's a big part of the deception.

Indeed....

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