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REAL GOALS OF CODEX
This is to bring about international 'harmonization.' While global harmony sounds benign, is that the real purpose of this plan? While the stated goal of Codex is to establish unilateral regulations for dietary supplements in every country, the actual goal is to outlaw health products and information on vitamins and dietary supplements, except those under their direct control. These regulations would supersede United States domestic laws without the American people's voice or vote in the matter.

HOW CAN IT BE POSSIBLE?
Americans gasp at the thought. It goes against everything America stands for. Many believe this can't be possible. The truth is, it's not only possible, it's required by the Codex Alimentarius agreement.

In fact, under the terms of the Uruguay Round of GATT, which created the World Trade Organization, the United States agreed to harmonize its domestic laws to the international standards. This includes standards for dietary supplements being developed by the United Nation's Codex Alimentarius Commission's Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Use.

The Uruguay Round Agreements carry explicit language clearly indicating that the U.S. must harmonize to international standards:

"Members are fully responsible under this Agreement for the observance of all provisions.... members shall formulate and implement positive measures and mechanisms in support of the observance of the provisions.... by other than central government bodies." [WTO TBT Agreement at Article 3.5]"

In other words, the federal government must NOT ONLY CHANGE FEDERAL LAW, but must ALSO require state and local governments to change their laws as well to be in accordance with international law.

Not only that, but Codex Alimentarius is now enforceable through the World Trade Organization (WTO). If a country disagrees with or refuses to follow Codex standards, the WTO applies pressure by withdrawing trade privileges and imposing crippling trade sanctions. Congress has already bowed to this pressure several times and so have the governments of many countries.

While the exemption clause (USC 3512(a)(1) and (a)(2) was created to supposedly protect our laws from harmonization to international standards, it has proven to be totally ineffective. The United States has already lost seven trade disputes despite the exemption clause. Due to the enormous pressures put on them by lobbyists from multinational corporations (who contribute millions to congressional campaigns), Congress bowed to pressure and changed U.S. laws.

It appears our government (as well as al others) is being manipulated one way or another to serve the goals of the UN, the World Health Organization and the World Trade Organization. Food control equals people control -- and population control. Is this beginning to sound like world government and one-world order? Could this be the real goal behind Codex Alimentarius?

The United States, Canada, the Europeans, Japan, most of Asia, and South America have already signed agreements pledging total harmonization of their laws including food and drug laws to these international standards in the future.

WHAT CODEX WILL BRING
What can we expect under Codex? To give you an idea, here are some important points:

Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use.
Potencies would be limited to extremely low dosages. Only the drug companies and the big phytopharmaceutical companies would have the right to produce and sell the higher potency products (at inflated prices).
Prescriptions would be required for anything above the extremely low doses allowed (such as 35 mg. on niacin).
Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water.
Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become binding (escape clauses would be eliminated).
All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval.
Genetically altered food would be sold worldwide without labeling.

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As anyone with a working thought process can see, Codex represents the control of the food resource in the larger duty of population control ... delivered through harmonized standards. Not only is there no guarantee that all current food standards will ascend to high standards under this harmonization scheme - indeed, when high meets low in the marketplace, the general overall tendency is towards lowered standards for all, e.g. simply because it is cheaper - but the harmonizing authority will be offered carte blanche to co-opt the control of food by the local authorities. Be with us ... or be against us and face trade sanctions. As it were. This blank cheque will be written and cashed to achieve all kinds of political goals, including global depopulation by limiting access to food and health foods (under any reason mounted on a Trojan Horse, but with New World Plans in the belly).

PaxPFIndia

ps: No Laibow or skirt to hide behind, Chico. Come out and address my argument, which is specific enough if not specific.

ps2: And let me make it easier for you, Laibow may indeed be a gatekeeper sent in to obscure the discussion with inaccuracy ... or she may be a podium professor enamored by free poetic license. You nor I have any great insight on Laibow; just respective conjectures. But we do each possess a brain that can process Codex and evaluate its worth. So quit prevaricating and evaluate its worth. Thank you.

I see, this thread is addressed primarily to me. I think you know what my perspective is, though with the Laibow debacle, you may have jumped to the wrong conclusions. But in a word, we're dealing with complexity. You prefer to oversimplify things, so I'll give you the simplified version first.

The Rothschilds and their minions control the world. The United Nations is a Rothschild institution and one of the instruments they use to exercise their control. Codex Alimentarius and Agenda 21 are products of the United Nations. The purpose of these products is ultimately to serve the Rothschilds, even though they are sold deceptively to the UN membership and the world as beneficial to all humanity. Their real purpose, however, is essentially one of deception and manipulation.

So, we are on the same page when things are simplified.

The complexity comes from the deception and manipulation. Many UN members, like the public in general, are not aware that they are being played. They try to write proposals and working documents that are meant to benefit the masses. A large part of Agenda 21 and Codex Alimentarius is just common sense. The ruling sociopaths, however, have a different agenda and perspective. They find the key passages that they can use to change things for their purposes, and they rewrite those key passages in a deceptive manner so that no one will notice or care. In a nutshell, the sociopaths corrupt the goodness of others into serving their evil purposes.

So yes, it's clear that one primary function of the UN is to destroy the sovereignty of individual nations, including the United States, and lead us all into the Rothschild one-world tyranny. Agenda 21 and Codex Alimentarius are cogs in the machine that will force us down that road. But if you read the documents, you will find them to be long, boring, mostly innocuous, and mostly well-meaning. They are not, however, innocuous or well-meaning when you factor in the clever changes the ruling sociopaths have deceptively inserted. This same strategy has been used for the last 100 years in the American legislative process. These subtle and now not-so-subtle corruptions have been the poisons that have rendered the masses into putty, and that putty is in the demented hands of the ruling sociopaths.

WOW! This SHIT is real!

I just have one little same old pesky question as usual and trying not to be redundant or problematic.....

(solution)?

If you can accept the fact that deviant humans called sociopaths exist, and that their unique characteristics (uncaring, shameless, irresponsible, deceiving, manipulating, compulsive liars, and talented chameleons) make them particularly well suited to rise up the social ladder into positions of power and control, then yes, this problem is real, and deadly serious.


The solution is clear. We develop a reliable method of identifying the sociopathic personality, and we prohibit those people from holding positions of power and control. The basic concept is similar to the required vision test before you can get a driver's license.

However, given that sociopaths control the current system, implementing the solution is highly problematic. The controlling sociopaths will never allow such a solution to be developed, much less applied. Their success and privileged status is at risk, and they will do anything to maintain that success and status, including plunging the world into the worst global conflicts imaginable.

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Didn't someone say Uncle Zook was a handyman?
Let's ask him!
Hey, i'll bet he can get us out of this mess.
What say you Zookie for solution to "highly problematic" situation?

A. Bake sale
B. Revolution
C. Watch more TV
D. Petition
E. Other____________

Yes, it's something of an understatement. Implementing the solution is an even bigger problem than uncovering the solution.

Actually it's airtight! lanquage---highly problematic---I like it and it is true---albeit the ramifications are colossal.

It's cute, succinct and all encompassing.

Who knows how high?

E. Other <----------------

Only real chance at a real solution: critical mass of informed people. IMO.

Ignorant masses are great ingredients for mobs (under yoke and whip; and saddles and harnesses) ... a.k.a mob rule and mobs ruled ... a.k.a. sheep herded in and out of pastures ... and cattle driven and sometimes stampeded.

To rise above the beast inside, we creatures of human habit have to transcend our instinctual animal essences ... before we can engage cerebral solutions. And the cerebrum needs data points. From information to informed opinion to a critical mass of informed people <------------- our only realistic chance to overcome our degrees in bondage. We succumb to our animal impulses; and the system will absorb our inputs and return the same old same old same old outputs in triplicate. And the power will remain in the current pyramid.

Pax Postcard From India

ps: We need to decentralize and find the disappearing eddies again ... else the centralizing whirlpool will turn into a black hole for human existence.

I agree. Until enough people understand the problem, the sociopaths will continue to succeed in herding us like sheep.


Centralization can be very beneficial, when non-sociopaths focused on the common good are doing it, and when they are accountable to the masses. That accountability is a critically important feedback loop. When sociopaths are doing it, and they are not truly accountable to the masses (above the law, so to speak), centralization is a disaster. And that's what we have now.