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You want earnest discourse, Chico?

Here's your opportunity to boldly go where no intellectual has gone before and defeat the pattern and leftist strongman dialectic of Chavez.

http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.ca/201 ... -with.html

Excerpt taken from the comments section but please watch the Spanish language video first to get a sense of the topic.

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A. Barreda7:13 AM

So living in Venezuela for three years in Venezuela entitles you to talk out of your ass? Puh-lease!. Before buying so happily all the propaganda that the government is selling about Chavez being the savior of the universe and his so-called socialism being the panacea against capitalism, you should get your facts straight.

Were it only a random accident and an improductive plot of land, you'd be right. But it's the whole country and PDVSA that are falling to piece after the biggest oil windfall in three decades.

After 14 years of mismanagement we have that the homicides have quadrupled, blackouts are happening everyday countrywide because the electric power system is falling to pieces, the national debt is four times bigger in the middle of a huge oil windfall, the number of accidents of PDVSA has increased while production has fallen, hospitals and schools are in terrible shape, public employees are denied collective agreements, and many other problems that the goverment just try to hide behind its so called battle against imperialism and capitalism. Because, you know, why bother solving real problems when you can fight against capitalism, USA and many other imaginary foes?
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I am not arguing that there is no corruption in the Venezuelan government, or that Chavez is highly non-sociopathic and does everything for the common good. People are people, and they are highly variable, and very complex. The interaction of all those people and all that complexity is even more complex. It's not simple and it's not binary, as you constantly imply.

I'm not putting Chavez or Correa or Assange on a pedestal. I am simply pointing out that this is not a binary world, and binary thinking will lead one completely astray from reality. Reality is analog in all of its full-spectrum glory. If you disagree, then that's the discussion we should be having.

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This is a marvel.

Chic are you trying to divert yourself from understanding human dynamics to champion anti Binary thinking?

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magamud wrote:
Chic are you trying to divert yourself from understanding human dynamics to champion anti Binary thinking?

Understanding human dynamics requires non-binary thinking.

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UncleZook wrote:
You want earnest discourse, Chico?

Here's your opportunity to boldly go where no intellectual has gone before and defeat the pattern and leftist strongman dialectic of Chavez.

http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.ca/201 ... -with.html


Again UZ it might be to your advantage to support your statements with some evidence, "Daniel's" opinion, however well written, doesn't qualify.

Hugo Chavez Is Crazy!

Well, actually, he's not. How the American media distorted events in Venezuela beyond all recognition is clear to one who reported from there.

Last June, on Page One of the San Francisco Chronicle, an Associated Press photo of a mass of demonstrators carried the following caption:

"TENS OF THOUSANDS OF VENEZUELANS OPPOSED TO PRESIDENT HUGO CHAVEZ..."

The caption let us know this South American potentate was a killer, an autocrat, and the people of his nation wanted him out. The caption continued: "[Venezuelans] marched Saturday to demand his resignation and punishment for those responsible for 17 deaths during a coup in April. 'Chavez leave now!' read a huge banner."

There was no actual story in the Chronicle -- South America simply isn't worth wasting words on -- just the photo and caption. But the Chronicle knew no story was needed. Venezuelans hated their terrible president, and all you needed was this photo to prove it.

And I could confirm the large protests. I'd recently returned from Caracas and watched 100,000 march against President Chavez. I'd filmed them for BBC Television London.

But I also filmed this: a larger march, easily over 200,000 Venezuelans marching in support of their president, Chavez.

That picture, of the larger pro-Chavez march, did not appear in a single U.S. newspaper. The pro-Chavez marchers weren't worth a mention.

By the next month, when the New York Times printed a photo of anti-Chavez marchers, they had metastasized. The Times reported that 600,000 had protested against Chavez.

Once again, the larger pro-Chavez demonstrations were, as they say in Latin America, "disappeared." I guess they didn't fit the print.

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Is this banana bozo allowed to continually pollute intelligent discussion with his gatekeeping efforts and incompetent ramblings? I suppose he is at that. When you got chief authority Chico in your back pocket - yes Chico, Socratic deconstuctivist extraordinaire whose specialties are the suspension of warranted conclusions and the reduction of most everything to the charge of binary thinking (and here, I'm not really sure that Chico even knows what binary thinking is or what it isn't, for he fails to recognize that virtually every decision made by humans involves stepwise binary decisionmaking ... and that a set of such decisions used to arrive a conclusion is then not binary thinking per se, but rather synthetic thought with indefinite endpoints and intermediate conclusions waiting for further establishment, and in the rare case, disestablishment) - well, that's a pocket-sized license to shill, isn't it?

For the edification of the unedified, the article that our resident chest-thumping bozo baritone bunked up in a treehouse overlooking the blue waters off the Bahamas refers to above ... was written by exposed left gatekeeper Greg Palast.

Who is Greg Palast? Watch this clown in action below:



The charge of gatekeeping doesn't come cheaply, Chico. One earns it with strident effort against the sober truths. Either professional work by gatekeeper Greg Palast ...or the amateurish work by gatekeeping minnow Andy. Palast gets paid handsomely for his misdirects (of which there are plenty in the cited video). Andy may also be a paid operative, but more likely he is freelancing for free to protect a system by which he profits directly or indirectly.

Misdirects <--------------- a key tool in gatekeeping.

Good folks, do yourselves a huge favor and go and find the high frequency of misdirects in Andy's posts. You will then find value in the counterarguments to anything this bozo boffo baphometic bafflebag barfs up. And in doing so, you will defend the truth. By continuing to entertain his misdirects, OTOH, you will assist those who desire to dumb things down.

Pax To Proverbial Fools

ps: Chavez stands even more indicted now that Greg Palast is in his pocket. I suppose I should thank you for making my job easier, eh, Andy?

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Hes an investigative reporter. I would ask, what type?

It must be a treat to find a William F. Buckley type to use to keep the cover story going.

They have such deep conviction with their scientific justice behind them.

I would like to ask him if he still thinks there is no evidence of demolition involved. Wow what a mole....

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Who is Greg Palast? Watch this clown in action below:

Zook, you are losing credibility by putting everyone on your "gatekeeper" list.

Listen, everyone gets fooled to some degree most of the time. Palast is talking conventional demolition, and in that sense, he is right. The WTC towers were not brought down by conventional demolition. They were brought down by unconventional demolition. Judy Wood realizes that, and the evidence for unconventional, esoteric mini-nukes is quite strong. Palast is working with incomplete information, just like the rest of us, and he can be excused if the conclusions he draws are inaccurate as a result, again just like the rest of us.

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The charge of gatekeeping doesn't come cheaply, Chico. One earns it with strident effort against the sober truths.

No, you are mistaken. You too are working with incomplete information. You are so convinced that you hold the sober truth, but that would make you the only human in history ever to do so. I find that unlikely.

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ps: Chavez stands even more indicted now that Greg Palast is in his pocket.

That's a gross oversimplification, Zook. Really gross.

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he draws are inaccurate as a result, again just like the rest of us.

I believe in forgiveness, but this guy is driving narrative. You hold cover stories together by driving narrative. These types are to easily turned.

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You too are working with incomplete information.

Chic,
Zook is pointing out a Hole in his belief system. Which is but a house of cards. Showing his integrity in belief systems.
Who is dealing with complete information?

Apparently this gentlemen thinks he has complete information. Or is that just the Pomp of a technocrat?

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You are so convinced that you hold the sober truth, but that would make you the only human in history ever to do so.

Why do you assume Zook is Godhood and knows all? Am I working from incomplete information here?

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Really gross.

Chic I urge you to look at this thread again and reassess your position. Zook has you here, and the more you do not see this, the more you are discrediting yourself. You have seen this before with other people. Hell you did it with your avalon thread. People miss perceive the truth and then incriminate themselves.

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UncleZook wrote:

ps: Chavez stands even more indicted now that Greg Palast is in his pocket. I suppose I should thank you for making my job easier, eh, Andy?

Really, I see you conveniently ignored my comment about the credibility of "Daniel's" blog! Then you have the audacity to accuse me of misdirection in your usual immature and insulting language!

magamud wrote:
Chic I urge you to look at this thread again and reassess your position. Zook has you here, and the more you do not see this, the more you are discrediting yourself. You have seen this before with other people. Hell you did it with your avalon thread. People miss perceive the truth and then incriminate themselves.

Really mags, I see like UZ you also "conveniently ignored my comment on the credibility of "Daniel's" blog!' Care to comment on this now? or to provide any contradicting evidence on Greg Palast's article?

I do think it's sweet you two have buried the hatchet and finally got together, which prompts me to post more material from Greg Palast, that I'm sure neither of you will watch due too, in UZ's case, his superior sage like discernment negating his need to do so! ( I kid you not, UncleZook actually wrote that here about himself! ) and you mags, which no doubt, is because of time restraints due to your continuing struggle with the Devil!

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