Before I proceed from where I left off earlier ... I would like to thank TH, Canzirka, Grats, Sandy and some others who have remained open-minded enough to take a balanced look on the views being expressed here ... either by being vocal or by being silent ... as the UP laundromat and its various-sized machines of wash, spin, and dry cycles are shaking the joint. As it were. I've stayed away for much of the day to continue the observational phase and give more rope to those who want to hang themselves. If United People is going to survive ... then it will survive on facts and become a legitimate truthseeking site - as most of us here originally hoped it would be - or it will fall flat like all the other forums that have been disrupted by disinformation, distortion, denial, and delusions of personal rectitude. Onwards to the middle chapter and the three unrepentant stooges of their own desperate desire for drama.

Let's start with DSimon <----------- this hybrid minnow and protosimian (and he should thank me for being polite) - arrived from nowhere with a proactive attack against me in his very first exchange with yours truly. I had done nothing to provoke him to this point, but deSimian wanted in alongside the puff and bluff Andy had started in the poker game Chico had initiated for his own personal catharsis, namely, "Banning for Dollars" (and other fiat currencies, no doubt). So deSimian used the contrived tact of defending Gypsy Woman's honor (let's stop a minute to write a small cheque for the Preservation of Screech Owls and Other Species on the Edge of Extinction) to raise the ante.

Here is deSimian's first post that referenced me in any way:
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... and the proactive tamper that set my reactive temper off:
viewtopic.php?p=1947#p1947

... my reactive temper alluding to deSimian as a toxic sludge surfer:
viewtopic.php?p=1956#p1956

I rest my case against this hybrid minnow and provocateur. Never heard of him before Banning for Dollars ... and, for me, he'll be tossed back into the toxic sludge after this thread is over.



Next is the passive aggressive Magamud <--------------- am still trying to figure him out. But if I'm to limit things to the scope of my disdain for Mags in the here and now (I've had a previous run-in with him over at Nexus over another proactive tamper on his part) ... then this unprovoked tamper in the Banning for Dollars thread exposes his penchance for mischief and ad hominem:
viewtopic.php?p=1437#p1437

The surprising thing was that we were actually going tit for tat in civil exchange ... but when he failed to crack my arguments with logic and facts, he resorted into the proactive tamper that you see in the above link. 'Nuff said.

Still, DSimon and Mags are pretty tame stuff ... dormant volcanoes that will tolerate free discussion to an extent. And as long as United People caters to their small views of the world, they will be outstanding citizens ... I have no doubt about that. Well, maybe just a tad of doubt about DSimon ... well okay, perhaps a tickle less than a tad for Mags. But hey, they don't appear to be gatekeepers to me. Not savvy enough, IMO. It takes an artful dodger to accomplish - with damaging effect - what that particular job description entails. But gatekeeping has both professionals and amateurs. And it has its turnip truckload of incompetents - its keystone kops, as it were. Enter the yellow banana.

Andywight <---------------------- This guy is a gatekeeper make no mistake about it. But he's so incompetent it makes you feel sorry for the lad. This clown - who Mags views as brilliant - is so clumsy with his proactive tampers, that I probably don't have to do much other than point back to his own posts, e.g. to rest my case. Indeed, I'll just allude to a few examples of the incompetence of this twit, and move on to the epilogue tomorrow and the main interest for me in all of this, namely, Chico: a good man besieged by his own distorted perspectives, purpose, and proportions on things. Chico is redeemable. Which is why I will make my comments about Chico with some deep reflection ... and not the casual dismissals I reserve for those already mentioned in this thread. Getting back to those examples exposing the false energy of Andy, here are some:

Caught in a PM intrigue of his own doing ... Andy tries to twist it around by blaming yours truly for breaching my own code of ethics.

Caught in a measure of support for Assange ... he later adds a video to discredit Assange (Swiss bank video). One thing to remember is this: the best disinformation is a 50-50 mix of facts and fictions. That is Gatekeeping 101.
Andy really only gives facts up so that his fictions can go unnoticed.

Caught in his mischief at Nexus (before his ban) of calling Dorok, Celine's bitch ... he tries to shift the blame to Celine by posting an exchange between himself and Celine, where Celine is running her tongue (probably after being provoked by Andy).

Caught in the timeline of the origins of our mutual antagonism ... Andy pretends that his and my timelines differ significantly when they approximate to the same point of origin. I suggest that anyone interested in the truths revisit the Banning for Dollars thread and read it in its entirety, specifically, the first 10 pages or so. The genesis of proactive tamper by Andy is glaringly evident there. You can also catch Mags and DSimon contribute with their own proactive tampers. I plead guilty to reactive temper in all three cases.

Caught with his pants down ... he makes the best of it from his level of community-seeking:
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	Quote: UncleZook wrote:Might it be that you've let your imagination sprint ahead while your legs and lower torso were too busy doing the banana boogie to notice? :jester:

Image hows it feel Zooki, am I using enough lube?
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There's much more to forcefully argue that the wrong person is being polled for sanction here, and that this polling is in fact a farce that undermines United People ... a farce from the poll designer Andy, to the poll supporter Chico, to the poll voters who showed an incredible lack of investigation into the facts before they decided to vote me - the reactive temper - as the problem at United People ... and with antisymmetry, exculpated Andy - one of three proactive tampers - from being the source of the problem.

'Nuff said, really.

ps: I'll post my epilogue and perspective of Chico - the good man besieged by his own personal hubris - tomorrow.

TH are you suggesting to just ignore you and Zook?

Anything I say is ignored anyway, so what is the difference?

I AM AGAINST THE ATTACKER ATTACKING WHEN THE FIGHT IS ALREADY DONE.

We each can ignore anyone we care to, but that serves you no kudos in the battle for truth.

What we are engaged in is humanity dealing with humanity.

I call bothers to peace, and if they don't, then we deal with the demon that robs them of that peace.

I fear nothing but the Elohim

Tease the lamb but don't dare tease the LION

Zook is not done by a long shot.

I would like to thank TH, Canzirka, Grats, Sandy and some others who have remained open-minded enough to take a balanced look on the views being expressed here ... either by being vocal or by being silent ... as the UP laundromat and its various-sized machines of wash, spin, and dry cycles are shaking the joint.

So what's in it for you, Zook? Thirty pieces of silver?

Now Chico, Play nice. Zook has thrown in the towel...kind of like you did on Nexus..

I know you would like to be the peace-maker for this one, but you are not experienced enough to see what's going on. No offense intended.

Caught in a PM intrigue of his own doing ... Andy tries to twist it around by blaming yours truly for breaching my own code of ethics.