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I also do not believe any artist of any type should be forced to paint a portrait, write a song, write a story, bake a cake, even, for anyone their creativity is not geared towards. Creativity is a fragile thing. Artists are fragile. If you want any artists to remain in the world you can not legislate the avenues their creativity travels along. You will thwart them and drive them completely out of social interaction with anyone but other artists. This probably does not matter to you. And, this is the exact reason I refrain from engaging in discussions these days that reveal my political perspectives. Majority propaganda is seldom correct.

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Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:03 am
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As per my last statement: I have moved "Was Hitler a Sociopath" to the MEMBERS ONLY forum. :!:


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Rose wrote:
The issue is that you have a Socialistic mindset and I do not.

Interesting. Can you define a "Socialistic mindset" and give examples of it being expressed by myself?

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Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:38 am
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Yes, to insist that all the labor and artistic angst I have put into InPHInet since I created it is PUBLIC PROPERTY!


Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:50 am
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Rose wrote:
The exception is for establishments that are completely open to the public. InPHInet is MEMBERS ONLY!!!

Only for posting. For reading, it is open to the public, except for the Members Only area, which is just an additional control structure used to entice the unprivileged public. I've always been against having a Members Only area, which is why it doesn't exist in this forum. Everything is visible here, nothing is blocked from the public, and member hierarchy is kept to the bare minimum required by the software.

Also the concept of membership that you are playing with here is rather convoluted. If forum registration is free and open to the public such that anyone can join, what is the significance of being a member? Why not do away with registration and allow anyone to read and post? The answer, of course, is once again control.

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Rose wrote:
Yes, to insist that all the labor and artistic angst I have put into InPHInet since I created it is PUBLIC PROPERTY!

Ah, I had no idea what you were talking about. Now I see that you consider the Inphinet forum as your private property because of the work you have put into it. What about the work your members have put into it? What part of the ownership is theirs? Do you consider all of my posts in your forum as your private property as well? Or do they belong to the author? Or do they lie outside of our society's retarded concept of ownership?

Our concepts of ownership, like our concepts of Hitler and the Holocaust, have been taught to us as part of our programming. Whereas I once accepted them without question as the truth, I have since learned that they are propaganda that serve the best interests of our controllers, the ruling sociopaths. They do not serve our best interests, not really, even though we are indoctrinated to believe that they do. It is the same for our concepts of on-line forum function and operation. I have broached that subject with you before at Inphinet, but you didn't get it then, and I don't expect you to question your foundational beliefs now. I understand how difficult that can be, and you have made it clear that comfort is your priority, thus no confrontation, political debate, or questioning of foundational beliefs.

At no time did I insist that all the labor and artistic angst that you have put into InPHInet since you created it is public property. That is a poor conclusion that you jumped to on your own. But let's take a look at that idea. Did you create the software that runs "your" forum? Did you create the computer language it is written in? Did you create the computer hardware it runs on? Did you create the transistors embedded in that hardware? Did you create all the posts stored in the forum database? How much work did you contribute to the development and evolution of databases? Just how much of "your" forum do you think really belongs to you?

The concept of ownership is fundamentally sociopathic. It too is a control structure. A few years back, I started to question the idea of property rights (here). I still believe our ideas about property (and many other things) are the result of brainwashing, programming, and mind control. It is a thought Matrix that we were born into and can hardly escape.

But I believe that escape, and greater freedom, may be possible. I also believe that it will be necessary if we are ever to break free of the sociopathic Matrix that holds us.

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Rose wrote:
The issue is that you have a Socialistic mindset and I do not.

I believe that the social group should determine its direction, which makes me socialist. I believe that the commune should manage its own affairs, which makes me a communist. I believe that the people should rule, which makes me a democrat. I don't believe in simple majority rule, which makes me a republican. I don't believe in rule by big government, which is always undermined by sociopaths, which makes me an anarchist. I believe in liberty, which makes me a libertarian. I recognize the necessity of stability, which makes me a conservative. I believe in the value of change, which makes me a liberal. You can apply any label to someone you disagree with and make it stick, but that doesn't really resolve the underlying disagreement. It just provides comfort to the labeler.

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I do not believe that any more than I believe a person's personal property should be seized by authorities and re-distributed.

And yet this is exactly what our government does. What are taxes if not personal property seized by authorities and redistributed? What about eminent domain? The military draft? How about having to work for a living? Isn't your time your own personal property, and isn't being "forced" to work in order to have food to eat the equivalent of your personal property being seized by authorities?

And how about when a forum administrator censors an entire thread? Were member posts, personal property maybe, just seized by the authorities? And when the thread is later restored in a Members Only area, is this not a redistribution, removing from the public its access to those posts, and restoring access to the privileged member class?

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You have every right to believe as you choose, as do I, Chico.

I will be posting this at InPHInet. :

I created InPHInet with many weeks of intense labor and have provided continual site maintenance for years. I alone pay for the server and licenses. I have never asked for or accepted a donation from anyone. There have never been any ads on the site bringing in revenue for me. I am not the Administrator of InPHInet. I am the sole owner of InPHInet. So whether or not anyone believes I should or should not administrate is a moot point. InPHInet is my property.

Participating members are offered a place to gather, communicate, and post pubicly or privately. If a member states to me their intent to leave, they are no longer considered participating members. Previous participating members' names remain in the member roster as a courtesy allowing their authorship to remain on their content, without reverting to guest status, in case they ever decide to return.

InPHInet is NOT A PUBLIC SITE. It is a site where members may publish their content and interact with other members. Members retain copyright to their content. The public have no rights at InPHInet. If a member states to me their intent to leave and not return, or if they have not posted for an extended time, they are no longer considered participating members. At this point they have one right: Access to their content to copy it elsewhere.

(There will be some additional clauses regarding deceptive and deceitful members. Any member who attempts to steal the site will be removed, for instance.)


If you want the Hitler thread made public you have every right to copy it and move it here.


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Rose wrote:
If you want the Hitler thread made public you have every right to copy it and move it here.

Thanks! I would love to do that, and I bet Zook would like it too. Do you know of a relatively easy way to accomplish that feat, like exporting the entire thread to a text file, or something along those lines? I just can't think of a method that is not a laborious process.

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Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:53 pm
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Which export format would you like?

PDF
SQL
CSV
CodeGen
PHP array
OpenDocumentText
Microsoft Word 2000
YAML
Texy!Text
XML


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