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Why I came (back) to inPHInet was because I remembered there was some really good music (some from Atticus) from groups I never even heard of. So one day I went there and started looking for some of that music and if I recall, I posted that.

Why I left I explained above. I just don't fit there and I would probably have ended up making posts (as reactions) I would later feel bad about. See Rose's post just after my last one. See the insinuation I wasn't polite. See the dozens of posts by others in responses to some of my own that are far less polite. Note, she never said a word about those.

I saw the light.

I am not wanted at inPHInet unless its to be abused.

:?: Sam? I think you should re-read what I said. Both Chico and I were never anything but kind to you at InPHInet. I only disagreed with some of your opinions. Did you not disagree with some of mine? Why could we not discuss these differences and possibly learn something from one another? Isn't this what people who want to learn from one another do?

Are you only comfortable dealing with "yes" people in your world view? That is not an insinuation or an insult. It is an honest question, because I am attempting to understand you. Honest discussion is how people get to know each other.

Your account at InPHInet has not been deleted, you have just been removed from the membership roster at your request. You can still log in and respond or pm any time you might care to. I feel after all my kindnesses to you could at least follow up by explaining what it was that occurred that was so egregious you had to pull a "Shezbeth" move?

Was it because I personally questioned the wisdom of coupling a betting odds site with spiritual guidance? That was just another personal opinion open for discussion. Did that hurt your feelings? If I were trying to put something huge like that together I would appreciate feedback from others. I think I made that comment politely enough, didn't I?

You were not wanted at InPHInet unless it was to be abused? I just do not understand how you could possibly make that comment. For my education, would you please point out to me where and when this occurred?


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Thank you Zook - for me this says it all!

What really pisses me off about "keyboard warriors" I think is the term, is their inability to take the next step and rise above their own Self-Centered Opinions into a discussion about pro-active, creative, innovative contributions for workable solutions to the tragedies our world endures, or at the very least contribute resources and discussions to support those courageous pioneers/activists that are actually out there making a fucking difference....


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I never claimed that Rose changed the numbers in any nefarious way, which is what Chico is trying to desperately suggest. I did state that Rose changed her vote within 24 hours of my exposing the fact that Chico had three times the votes declaring he was a a sociopath than either Shezbeth or I received, in this post dated May 5, 2016:
http://inphinet.net/threads/sociopaths- ... #post-5424


There was nothing nefarious in this, Zook. Please explain, but I guess you do not need to explain the stretches of truth you constant come up with to justify the ridiculous opinions you promote. The silly poll was and still is open for voting, or changing votes.

When you made your silly comment about the silly poll here (and several other comments at InPHInet) three of us had a discussion and changed our minds about our previous position regarding your lack of sociopathy and decided to rectify our votes in the poll. It was a simple as that. I do not believe you can, even with your stretches of logic, accurately describe that action as nefarious.


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Then explain Sam and Fred leaving Inphinet because of a perceived impending labeling and libeling from you? More to the point, why do they both feel that you were reading to spring the contrived charge of sociopath on them?
Good luck answering that, Chico.


What leads you to believe that Fred has left InPHInet, Zook? Fred is still a member.

Fred was only removed from the PHI Group Skype chat due to a misunderstanding. He agreed to public posting of group chat messages when everyone else agreed. But, he responded yes, thinking it was an approval only for a previous conversation. When he became aware all conversations were being posted at PHI, he asked me to not make his comments public. Due to the difficulty of removing one person's comments from chat text, he was removed from the chat group.


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Think about it, what other purpose is there to study the individual mind than to ultimately control it?

Zook, you think like a sociopath (naturally) and expect others to do the same. No surprise there, you just can't help it. And that fact is critical to understanding your behavior.

What other purpose is there to studying the human body than to ultimately control it? Can you not see your error? It's big enough to fly a 747 through! The purpose of studying the human body is to understand it, to know its truths! That understanding can be used for good or evil, for healing or controlling. The same thing applies to the human mind. We study it to understand it, not control it. To heal it, not damage it.

This example of your deception is but one of many embedded throughout your post. You use these deceptions over and over again to support your faulty reasoning. Your deceptive arguments have been refuted time and time again by me in this forum. Yet you continue to repeat them ad infinitum, as if the repetition will make them true. I have said it before, and I will say it again -- you do not have truth on your side. You have deception, which I agree is the most powerful adversary of truth. As we are seeing in our world today, deception is apparently even more powerful than truth. Deception controls, while truth liberates. And who wields that deception incessantly, who benefits from it, who makes it the center of their existence? Just a clique of Rothschild banksters? Just 25% of the Zionist Jews? Hell no! It is the sociopaths, whether they be Rothschilds or Madoffs, bankers or borrowers, Jews or Muslims, organized or isolated. What sets them apart is their psychology, a psychology centered around a lack of empathy.

You are a bullshit artist, Zook. Naturally, because you are a sociopath. I don't say that to disrespect or denigrate you. I say it because it is the truth. You cannot really stop your game-playing, your boasting, your deception, your manipulation, and your pursuit of power and control over others. I understand that. You have clearly demonstrated that here in the forum. I have great respect for your skills as a deceiver and a manipulator. You play a mean game, without a doubt. But you are playing the wrong game for the wrong reason, and it is not your fault. It is humanity's fault, because we as a group have never developed a satisfactory way of identifying people like you and properly managing them. With the understanding we have gleaned from the relatively recent science of psychology, combined with other sciences and technologies like fMRI, imagery, computers, and many more, we have for the first time the tools and techniques, the opportunity, to address this most critical of humanity's problems. And people like you, sociopaths, are fighting us every inch of the way, because you will not be in the driver's seat behind the levers of control that move the rest of us about like chess pieces.

Wake up and smell the roses, Zook. But you can't, I know. I want other people to know not only what sociopaths are, but why they can't let go. From the perspective of the sociopaths, their very survival depends on controlling the empathetic masses who find their psychology so odious. And there is some historical truth to that, as most humans do not understand sociopathy. And so they fear it, and often react with violence.

But they could understand it, if we teach them. They could react with calm and compassion, if we show them how. We could make it happen.

And we must.

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Zook, I find your reasoning for compartmentalizing everything in society into black and white repressive and classic of throwing the baby out with the bathwater - not a wise move in my opinion. Because the controlling elites have infected the ideology behind uniting countries to work together without borders on sustainability, (hmm because nature is just too damn slow in getting how important it is to subscribe to and stay within humanities imagined border lines), we should just throw out everything in papers such as the Brundtland Report which was actually contributed to by many individuals who have humanities best interests at heart; and which by the way I did not promote, (you chose that interpretation), I merely wrote a paper illuminating the positive power of globally growing organic awareness for good sustainability ideologies despite the sabotage effects of power hungry elitists.

Because big pharma has capitalized financially on the study of psychology then we should just throw that all out too, oh yeah and also because:

[Zook quote] "human nature has been understood since the dawn of moral time in the behavioral identification of good seeds and bad seeds in society, and every degree of moral seed in between".

Recognized - Yeah, Understood - Not even close! If human nature had been understood since the "dawn of moral time", whatever the fuck that means, then we wouldn't have a lack of understanding on how to deal with "good seeds and bad seeds" in society and the bad seeds wouldn't be running rampant creating systems that deceptively coerce good seeds into behaving like bad seeds!

Maybe we should just throw out everything educational facilities offer, faith institutions, sporting institutions, etc, etc, - geez with your reasoning there will be nothing left! Let's throw out what medical science has discovered to date whilst we're at it, because we all know the corporate elites also capitalize on this by popping up medical practitioners en masse ensuring they have been compartmentalized in their education to make many of them nothing more than champions for handing out painkillers and antibiotics. Gotta laugh sometimes or go mad so I will share one of my own stories to illustrate the ludicrousness of compartmentalizing when it comes to our physical anatomy: I suffer from Sarcoidosis which affects my respiratory system, amongst others. Whilst talking to an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist who was investigating a throat condition I began to talk about crossover symptoms and connections with my lungs, etc. His reply was "Oh, I don't know much about that, you would know more about Sarcoidosis and lungs than me as I specialize in ear, nose and throat". ROFL :face: Even a Year 10 student knows the respiratory system is all-inclusive from nose to diaphragm.

Anyway my point being: Zook's expert opinion lacks intelligent all-inclusive assessment within various topics because what he doesn't understand he throws out in order to persistently persuade us that the Rothschild bankster organization is a bad seed, which has been known for a long time anyway, and that:

[Zook quote] The Rothschild bankster organization is entirely responsible for the design of the global evils in the past two plus centuries, with the system of centralized banking overseeing the control of credit (the extension and withdrawal of credit, to be specific) as the primary tool of manipulation, occupation, and sedition of whole cultures and nations. There are far, far more sociopaths outside the Rothschild bankster organization than within. Ergo, the argument that sociopaths are the root cause of the global evils is patent nonsense. The root cause is organization.

THE ROOT CAUSE IS ORGANIZATION! Move on Zook and graduate yourself to getting to what is the root cause FOR organization, any organization, just pick one. Go ahead, don't need to be a rocket scientist, let me give you a hint: PEOPLE!
People who are complex biological systems. A quick extract defn thanks to Wiki, (ooh can already hear the brain cogs crunching on how to pounce on me for this one :) ):
"Human biology is an interdisciplinary area of study that examines humans through the influences and interplay of many diverse fields such as genetics, evolution, physiology, anatomy, epidemiology, anthropology, ecology, nutrition, population genetics and sociocultural influences."

[Zook quote] Nothing thus far ventured by the establishment, not even the creation of a field of study to discover the human mind/nature has ever succeeded in replacing the great living encyclopaedia collectively ventured over millennia by average humans studying each other and transferring this knowledge down the generational lines.

The Great Living Encyclopedia! Definition: describes a person who has a lot of factual/historical information stored in his brain and can spit it out as soon as someone brings up a topic.
Oh Zook, you are priceless, you great living encyclopedia, you! Maybe you should try utilizing your gifts more productively and satisfactorily for yourself rather than trying to impress by spouting fragmented information just to gain recognition.
You are also aware aren't you that a computer can perform the same function of spewing out volumes of information, but that doesn't default the computer into being useful, valid, logical, or wise.

Anyway, back to Sociopathy. I shared this with a friend today so thought I would include it here.

Sociopathy is a tough topic I have even had flaring conversations with some of my dearest loved ones over it and had to bail out. The indoctrinated internal defense mechanism to unwittingly protect sociopathic behaviour is staggering, yet not difficult to understand when we are conditioned to praise and worship and emulate these behaviours as being essential for survival and success; heck how many times have we seen an empathic person displayed on the cover of Forbes magazine as someone we need to be like compared to the person who just made their next million!

My mission is not to crucify sociopaths, but to help change the "memes" so that we can view sociopathy via brain imaging as being a medical condition that needs to be exposed so that cautionary awareness can be applied to what stations in life are better suited to those with the disposition; as well as assist the general populace to sober up from the addiction to sociopathic behaviours originating from and being sustained by the incessant indoctrinations to idolize them - and we are all not immune to having these tendencies in varying degrees. The difference in my understanding so far is that there are definitive anatomy markers and then there are behavioural conditioning markers i.e. empaths that surrender their empathic choices to favour the survival/success dog-eat-dog behaviours of exploiting others and this is sadly evident in a vast majority of humans - how can it not be when we are living in the systems/organizations created by sociopaths. We can recognize the difference though through genuine feelings of guilt, shame and/or remorse. No different to any other addiction.

Our emotional and psychological bodies are renegades, sobering them up is critical to being able to operate and sustain an internal value system of intentional unification.


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Yay, one minute in and you have convinced me to slit my wrists. :roll:

I assume you are talking one minute into Zook's audio lecture, because I too considered "ending it all" listening to Zook singing! I am not trying to be cruel to Zook, but he should know better than to publicly sing, just like he should know better than to publicly tell us how the world works.

I think Gemma just said something to that very effect in the post preceding yours, Mr. ULY.


What?

Only people with singing voices should be allowed to sing publicly? News to me, Chico.

I kinda chuckled with Mr. ULY's remark about slitting wrists. Kinda enjoyed that. He wasn't being mean-spirited, just humorous. Wit is one of the greatest magnets for me. Your remark had different energy, however. You used your remark to reprimand me for publicly offering an (informed) opinion on how the world works. Just another part of your game, Chico. Attack Zook at every opportunity, that sorta thing.

That's another thing that separates the predominantly empathic from the predominantly sociopathic ... the predEmpaths give encouragement to all human beings so that said beings can enjoy collective space. Even tho' I readily admit not having the kinda singing voice that inspires people, I hardly doubt that I was destroying said space. But thanx for your energy. I've gotten quite used to it. My day wouldn't be the same without it. Not quite Patti Hearst and the SLA ... but I'm gonna miss your ad hominems if and when they cease.

:jest:



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Gemma wrote:
Zook, I find your reasoning for compartmentalizing everything in society into black and white repressive and classic of throwing the baby out with the bathwater - not a wise move in my opinion.

Hey Zook, look! After all these years of me holding you accountable for ridiculous binary thinking, i.e. "black and white" thinking, and gross oversimplifications, like "it's either A, B, or C", someone else has quickly noticed the same thing and pointed it out!

So, you now have another "gatekeeper" to add to your long list of "Rothschild stooges"! :lol:

Gemma wrote:
If human nature had been understood since the "dawn of moral time", whatever the fuck that means, then we wouldn't have a lack of understanding on how to deal with "good seeds and bad seeds" in society and the bad seeds wouldn't be running rampant creating systems that deceptively coerce good seeds into behaving like bad seeds!

Spot on, Gemma! Zook continues to take pride in this absurd argument of his, that good and evil have been around since the dawn of time, therefore it is clearly understood and psychology has no clarification to add. I have tried and tried to show him how he is embarrassing himself, but to no avail. He simply has no shame. I wonder why...

Gemma wrote:
My mission is not to crucify sociopaths, but to help change the "memes" so that we can view sociopathy via brain imaging as being a medical condition that needs to be exposed so that cautionary awareness can be applied to what stations in life are better suited to those with the disposition;...

Bravo.

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... as well as assist the general populace to sober up from the addiction to sociopathic behaviours originating from and being sustained by the incessant indoctrinations to idolize them...

Bravo again.

If sociopaths really knew what was good for them, they would back people like you and me in order to allow humanity to thrive. Because humanity would include them! But by believing they are best served by enslaving humanity, they prepare the ground for their own extinction (and ours).

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There are far, far more sociopaths outside the Rothschild bankster organization than within. Ergo, the argument that sociopaths are the root cause of the global evils is patent nonsense.

Ergo, nonsense?! Are you insane, Zook? Counting sociopaths is all we need to do? No consideration for degree of sociopathy, degree of wealth, or degree of power and control?

And you are never guilty of outrageous oversimplification? :face:

85 people own about half of the wealth of the planet. Would most of those be part of the Rothschild bankster organization? Do you think that is insignificant, and we can simply cancel out those unbelievably wealthy 85 with 85 homeless sociopaths living under bridges?

If you were not a sociopath and felt shame like the rest of us, you would hide your face and withdraw into obscurity. But we all know that is not going to happen. And we all know why.

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Summary: First 7:00 minutes dedicated to Mr. ULY and Chico. Last 7:00 minutes dedicated to Gemma. An extemporaneous talk on the root cause of today's global evil(s), pitting Chico's claim of sociopathy as being the root cause vs my own claim of organization. The use of the pied piper metaphor, equating sociopaths with pied pipers, to communicate the vacuity of Chico's claim of sociopathy being the root cause. Discussion of the cyclic nature of the battle between good and evil; between right and wrong; between virtue and vice; between empaths and sociopaths ... is discussed. With emphasis that these are timeless battles that cannot be completely solved - at least it is not within human purview to solve them. With the observation that these battles must be fought with eternal vigilance, as part of the cycle of winning and losing and winning and losing and ... etc.


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