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Classic twist and shout. When Chico accuses me of twisting and shouting, there is no doubt that he's projecting his own behavior.

This is typical of sociopathic game-playing, Zook, and you continue to expose yourself. "Twist and shout" originated from Chico observing Zook's repetitive strategy in this forum of twisting the facts around to support his agenda and then prancing about, declaring victory, as if his newly constructed arguments were logically airtight. It happened so often that I invented the terminology for it, with a nod to the classic Beatles song of the same title. "Twist and shout" is Zook's resumé.

Zook's current tactic is something all sociopaths do when their malfeasance is being exposed, as I pointed out in this post. The Clintons use this same technique, described as "They use the well known trick of accusing your opponents of your own malfeasance." Naturally, when I point out that this is what Zook is doing, he can only fall back on his tired old strategy of reflecting it right back onto me. This is the equivalent of the strategy kids use when they defend themselves against name-calling by repeating, "I know you are, but what am I?"


Everything written above is pure projection. Nothing is sincere. Chico knows it. But sincerity is not his purpose. 50/50 mixing of facts and fictions is. Obfuscation is. Promoting the lie weavers is. Attacking the truth seekers is. And because I am a sincere truthseeker attempting to expose the Talmudist-specific bankster pyramid and its secretive, fiat-financed, organized global corruptions (here, the local corruptions are less specific and everyone is culpable, not just the Talmudist-engineers) ... because I dare speak above the whispers ... I've been targeted by rabbit runners Chico and Mags to chase them around a greyhound track. Even by minimally responding to this latest messenger attack from Chico, I'm obliging their tactics, I suppose ... so be it. Reactive temper to proactive tamper is what it is. Keeps me human.

Wasn't it Gandhi who is credited with saying: first they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they attack you, then you win? I guess my two years on this burp of a forum has been worth it in the sense that we're already on the cusp of the 4th stage.

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The above paragraph profoundly illustrates Chico's penchant for going after the messenger in a deliberate misdirection from the message. Exposed in his game-playing, he has no other recourse but to fall back to his natural behavior ... which is virtually indistinguishable from that of a sociopath ... but which still does not meet the threshold behavior to qualify as a sociopath. A true sociopath not only has to meet thresholds on the same behaviors, but exhibits additional aberrant behavior. Chico is walking very close to the thresholds - as fifth columnists invariably do - but close is no cigar.

Awww, I can't seem to qualify as a sociopath. How disappointing.


Yes, it's all a game to you, isn't it?

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All the behaviors I have repeatedly observed and quantified coming from Zook are now my behaviors, according to Zook. It's an effective defense rich in deception and manipulation, which is why sociopaths use it. But you will note that it is copied, a reflection of the original notions that were gleaned from true inquiry. Sociopaths are not interested in true inquiry unless it enhances the deception and manipulation they use to control others.


Another lap around the greyhound track? Nope. Sorry, not interested.

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Two things to note here. First, the immediate issue is your mendacity in seeking to displace my argument of thresholds (which is the solid irrefutable argument that I made on the subject of general sociopathy) ...

Your so-called irrefutable argument has been refuted in a variety of ways on numerous occasions, which you conveniently ignore and deny (Andy uses the same strategy). I just refuted your argument again today here.

I checked out that video. There is nothing in it about threshold behaviors of sociopathy, pro or con. So how could you have refuted it? As for your commentary in that post, theres' nothing there to refute my argument of thresholds ... only more of your opinionated decrees and quasi-thesis. You even confuse the different problems of general and specific sociopathy to be the same problem ... for an umpteenth time.

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Secondly, even in those purported rebuttals of yours, all you do is make gross conjectures about behaviors that are shared by both sociopaths and nonsociopaths

Once again, this is untrue. I typically report my observations of your behaviors immediately after they happen, with links or quotes to the very behavior I am commenting on. There is no conjecture, there is only evidence.


Reporting behaviors is a simple act of slapping paint on the canvass. Everyone slaps it differently. And everyone is allowed to in a free world. But slapping paint on the figurative canvass does not inform objectivity in measuring threshold behaviors. To wit, what is the quality of the painting? There are threshold criteria that separate the Renoirs from the riff raff. Figuratively-speaking, your rendering of what a sociopath is and your blanket decrees against anyone who disagrees with you ... does not even reach the minimum threshold that separates the riff raff from a noteworthy painting talent, leave alone a great talent like Renoir.

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I spoke the truth in both cases ... not to dismiss sociopathy or psychology ... but to put some perspective on the subjective nature of soft science pursuits...

Like a skilled sociopath, you do often speak the truth, but with the intention of using it to deceive and manipulate. Andy does this too. So do the Clintons. It's all part of the game-playing sociopaths are exceptionally practiced at.


Guilty as charged. I would just add that I almost always speak the truth, including the occasional truthful mistakes. The other exception being when I'm in reactive temper mode and say all kinds of nasty things in the moment which I sometimes don't mean. Being human, excitable and fallible, that sorta thing.

As for the derivative stuff, namely, your reading of sinister intent into my speaking of the truths, that's just your penchant for manipulating what has been actually said to what you would like others to believe what was said.

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The invocation of trademarks (a commercial construct) hints at what Chico is really about, e.g. salesmanship. Salesmanship as a substitute for intellectual rigor ... is as odious as hard conclusions drawn from a soft sciences.

And here's the example of speaking truths with the intention of using the truth to deceive and manipulate. It's true that trademarks are a commercial construct, and it's true that commercialism implies sales and salesmanship. It's true that salesmanship is no substitute for intellectual rigor, and it's true that wrong conclusions can be drawn in any science. But does that make it true that Chico is all about salesmanship, or is that the deception Zook is trying to sell?


I never claimed you were all about salesmanship. You're a 50/50 mixer, remember. That makes you at least half-admirable to go along with your other natures of half-contemptible and half-assedness. Oops, that was a half too much wasn't it?

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I took six years of undergraduate courses and earned enough credits to earn a BSC in chemistry and a BA in mathematics. Had I wanted. But I never bothered to pick up the certificates...

And where did this futile educational experience occur?


If it is futile, is it still relevant? I'll tell you what, go ahead and assume that I have zero education in any subject area. That way, you can focus on my ideas and not my certified identification. Fair enough?

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Everything written above is pure projection. Nothing is sincere. Chico knows it. But sincerity is not his purpose. 50/50 mixing of facts and fictions is. Obfuscation is. Promoting the lie weavers is. Attacking the truth seekers is.

Are you accusing your opponent of your own malfeasance again? It sure sounds like you are describing your posts.

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Yes, it's all a game to you, isn't it? Another lap around the greyhound track?

Still projecting your malfeasance.

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As for your commentary in that post, theres' nothing there to refute my argument of thresholds ... only more of your opinionated decrees and quasi-thesis.

That's the same strategy of dismissal and denial that Andy is always using.

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You even confuse the different problems of general and specific sociopathy to be the same problem ... for an umpteenth time.

It's only a confusion in your mind. What you call specific sociopathy is a direct consequence of general sociopathy. It's all derived from people lacking empathy.

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Figuratively-speaking, your rendering of what a sociopath is and your blanket decrees against anyone who disagrees with you ... does not even reach the minimum threshold that separates the riff raff from a noteworthy painting talent, leave alone a great talent like Renoir.

You make it sound like I just make it all up for my own selfish benefit. Are you accusing me again of your own malfeasance?


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Guilty as charged. I would just add that I almost always speak the truth, including the occasional truthful mistakes.

Guilty indeed. Of course, your massive ego won't even allow you to see the important part. The important part there was that you speak truth in the service of deception and manipulation. That's the "twist" part in "twist and shout". As you well know, propaganda requires that truth be included to make the spin believable.

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I never claimed you were all about salesmanship.

My mistake for putting the word "all" in there instead of "really". What you claimed is that Chico is really about salesmanship. Do you need to see it again?
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The invocation of trademarks (a commercial construct) hints at what Chico is really about, e.g. salesmanship. Salesmanship as a substitute for intellectual rigor ... is as odious as hard conclusions drawn from a soft sciences.


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If it is futile, is it still relevant?

Yep, it's still relevant. So tell us where all of this undergraduate education you pursued without even picking up your multiple degrees took place.

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Are you accusing your opponent of your own malfeasance again? It sure sounds like you are describing your posts.

:lol: This is the best rebuttal our great self proclaimed Truth-seeking Master of Logic can come up with??? :lol:

Still projecting your malfeasance.

This isn't even a rebuttal and as hollow as the above garbage!

That's the same strategy of dismissal and denial that Andy is always using.

Wrong! Unless you feel the use of opinion insidiously disguised as fact is a valid form of rebuttal? :lol:

It's only a confusion in your mind. What you call specific sociopathy is a direct consequence of general sociopathy. It's all derived from people lacking empathy.

Again you manipulate the context and demonstrate your deficiencies in the art of debating.

I'm also beginning to think you don't fully understand the meaning of Sociopathy, which is clearly evidenced here by your constant misuse and misconception of the term!

You make it sound like I just make it all up for my own selfish benefit.

It's your nonsensical amateurish overuse of the term "Sociopath" that points to your disingenuous nature Chicodoodoo, UncleZook is just drawing attention to it.

Are you accusing me again of your own malfeasance?

I realize that your feelings of inadequacy handicap your communicative abilities, but this almost comical inappropriate use of the English language isn't helping your credibility or displayed intellect one iota Mr Chicodoodoo!

To be continued...

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Mandy you are the most pathetic man I know currently and thats saying something. You bring no original content and when you do link content you drip, its to directly benefit you on some measly way. One of the worst things you do here, besides your character assassination, your bit coin ponzie scheme and childish antics is laughing at the US debacle of Civil War. Your insights on this subject are superficial, negligent, short sighted much like a bumbling idiot. The US govt is setting up people who just want basic freedom to be the catalyst for a war. Your critical thinking on this subject is like an advertisement to be a brainwashed Zombie. And here is the irony of your stupidity, you project me as some commando goon when it is actually the State bringing violence to the people. But your so sociopathic, so narcissistic, so childish, you miss the point all together and don't give a shit because your on some dumb numbing nationalism with your tropic island. Its amazing stuff, its stupidity beyond measure and Im glad your here to bring the storm of moronic.

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Mandy you are the most pathetic man I know currently and thats saying something. You bring no original content and when you do link content you drip, its to directly benefit you on some measly way. One of the worst things you do here, besides your character assassination, your bit coin ponzie scheme and childish antics is laughing at the US debacle of Civil War. Your insights on this subject are superficial, negligent, short sighted much like a bumbling idiot. The US govt is setting up people who just want basic freedom to be the catalyst for a war. Your critical thinking on this subject is like an advertisement to be a brainwashed Zombie. And here is the irony of your stupidity, you project me as some commando goon when it is actually the State bringing violence to the people. But your so sociopathic, so narcissistic, so childish, you miss the point all together and don't give a shit because your on some dumb numbing nationalism with your tropic island. Its amazing stuff, its stupidity beyond measure and Im glad your here to bring the storm of moronic.

Am I speaking to a real person or the AI?

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:lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0ochx16Dg

Your a menace slandy because your against the truth. Your a fraud....

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Andy pointing to where sociopathy is :lol:

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Andy pointing to where sociopathy is :lol:


You seem to have pointedly pointed out a point that you completely missed the point off!

Now that's irony for ya! :lol:

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Is there a point?

:lol:

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