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I'm now only 25 minutes into the video and already I've seen enough evidence to warrant the immediate cessation of the entire field, which is nothing more than a front for drug running, eugenics, and population control (quantitative and qualitative). Psychiatry s a polite term for what it really is, a cage to imprison minds ... to match the cage system that has been erected to imprison bodies. In neither case is justice allowed priority over commerce. The morality of the Ten Commandments (e.g. thou shall not kill) displaced by the morality of the eugenicists (e.g. thou shall kill the undesirables).

I pretty much agree. Psychiatry is a corruption of psychology primarily by the hands of sociopaths. The sociopathic lust for power and control makes psychiatry the perfect vehicle for enslaving individuals.


Psychology is the study of the soul. Psychiatry is the healing/treatment of the soul.

If the soul could be collected in an Erlenmeyer flask and studied, then one may claim hard scientific research into its attributes. As it is, studies of the soul are as elusive as the soul itself, for no one has yet succeeded in containing the soul. Enter the realm of guesswork. To assist the guesswork, statistical methods and a moral system are both employed. The norms inform the mores inform the soul, as it were. A deviant soul is a good soul if the norms/mores are evil. A deviant soul is an evil soul if the norms/mores are good. That sorta thing. Lots and lots of guesswork is involved.

The study of the soul and the treatment of the soul ... have both been corrupted by human beings on the south side of human nature. It is incorrect to say that one is a corruption of the other. I mean, we have science and we have technology ... but one doesn't say that technology is a corruption of science (regardless of who's in charge, sociopaths or nonsociopaths). Technology is an application (or misapplication) of science, not a corruption of it.

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The evil potential in man's nature is given all kinds of outlet in the pseudoscientific field of psychiatry, which is the fraternal twin of psychology (the mother of psychopathy/sociopathy).

Wrong. Now you're just trying to discredit sociopathy in order to whitewash your own personal psychological makeup. Psychology is not the fraternal twin of psychiatry. That is a deliberate deception and manipulation on your part. Psychiatry is the abomination that sociopaths have created from psychology and medicine.


Not at all. Sociopathy exists. The study of sociopathy also exists. And they are not the same thing. The study of sociopathy is a subdiscipline of psychology, the study of the soul. As mentioned above, psychology is a soft science with a lot of guesswork built into it. Charlatans have promoted both psychology and psychiatry far above what they merit ... and that has resulted in the corruption of both fields. In the video that Andy found, at the 1:13:00 mark, we have Dr. David Stein, a professor of psychology, remarking about the corruption of psychology and the corruption of psychiatry as two separate things. IOW, the study of the soul has been corrupted as well as the treatment of the soul.

There has been no manipulation on my part ... only a dedicated effort to clarify terms that you are muddying, wittingly or not. Also, to offset your charlatanry in the area of psychology known as sociopathy.

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I will confidently state that the study of sociopathy is first and foremost an element in the pursuit of eugenics.

Wrong again. In fact, this "confident statement" of yours is ridiculous. Sociopathy, like psychology, has nothing to do with eugenics.


In your own words, the study of sociopathy has everything to do with identifying sociopaths and disqualifying them ... but as history has amply shown, and as Andy's video clearly demonstrates, identification is the soapy slope to elimination, not to mention that much more slippery when there is an abundance of charlatans. Indeed, as our resident charlatans, Batman Chico and Robespierre Mags, have demonstrated on this burp of a forum, it is practically effortless to make the charge of sociopathy and virtually unnecessary to have to try and prove it. And even if you could prove it, no amount of proof will dissuade the putative mob wandered into the proximity of rope and oak trees. And that ... is swift and abiding eugenics.

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This is just more deception and manipulation. You are demonstrating the intensity, frequency, and nature of the behavior that you spoke of here that helps us identify sociopaths. It would be completely in character for a sociopath trying to discredit sociopathy to turn it into a witch hunt. And that's what you are trying to do.


You're the one attempting to identify witches with your incessant ridiculous shouts of sociopathy. Such temerity to reverse things and suggest that I'm waging a witch-hunt. Either that or your doorknob-dumbness turning again. Again, you're confusing the term sociopathy with the study of sociopathy. Any discrediting attempted by me is against the pseudoscience of sociopathy, but that is not a witch hunt for the study of sociopathy is not a witch ... but a duck.
Quack, quack.

To complete the thought, I do not discredit sociopathy itself. I recognize sociopathy for what it is ... the evil expression of man's nature.

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Evil is being currently redefined as sociopathy (in the duty of scientific dictatorship).

Once you get started, you just can't help yourself, can you. The sociopath in you steps into the limelight and takes control.

Yes, a lot of evil does tend to come from sociopaths, but that does not mean we are redefining evil as sociopathy. It is completely unreasonable to make such an exaggeration, which is just another attempt from you at deception and manipulation.


Sociopathy is a subset of the study of the soul. Souls have always been characterized as being either good or evil, in a nonscientific sense. The agents of scientific dictatorship recognize that to bring the study of the soul into the realm of science, they cannot stick with the old nonscientific terminologies. Enter new labels and label guns.

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We have lived with evil ... and we have lived with sin ... for millennia, long before the field of psychiatry was invented, and even longer before the term sociopathy was coined. We will continue to do so long after the Talmudist empire and its perverted moral dichotomy of the chosen and the unchosen ... finds its ruins.

You are just doing your typical "twist and shout" here using banal truisms. What's important is the amount of evil and sin we have been forced to tolerate, and the reason we have been forced to tolerate it, which is completely preventable by simply identifying and managing sociopaths.


The reason that we are tolerating the global evil and corruptions is quite simple ... socially-engineered ignorance. Enter the pursuit of awareness and the fight for control of the information battlefields. To this end, turning focus away from specific detail (e.g. secretive, fiat-financed, organized sociopaths) and towards generality (e.g. general sociopathy) ... is an attack waged by charlatans against the momentum of awareness.


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Psychology is the study of the soul. Psychiatry is the healing/treatment of the soul.

You don't need to get mystical with it Zook. Its the study of human behavior.

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The study of sociopathy is a subdiscipline of psychology

If people new the prevalence of sociopathy this statement would absolutely be false.

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identification is the soapy slope to elimination

You keep trying to disqualify the inquiry to identify the most pressing danger to our species. Why do you do this? The first thought is pure vanity or you are inexperienced on how life works and are lost.

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it is practically effortless to make the charge of sociopathy and virtually unnecessary to have to try and prove it

See whats in front of your face first Zook before concluding what you see down the line. Even in this very post I am pointing out your lack of awareness in the behaviors of sociopathy, which tells that you carry that very trait. Its very interesting to say the least and I am doing this just by inquiry. So, even though there is not a scientific plan organized, one with eyes can see a scientific pattern in how to disqualify sociopathy. Thanks for your help!

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mob wandered into the proximity of rope and oak trees. And that ... is swift and abiding eugenics.

You keep missing this point Zook. There is no murder here, its disqualification from places of power, which you project as eugenics, rather then seeing self defense, when sociopaths are applying Eugenics in the meantime. Fascinating stuff ole chap... You are, wether unbeknownst, aligning with current sociopathy.

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You're the one attempting to identify witches with your incessant ridiculous shouts of sociopathy

Incredible stuff Zook. Comparing sociopaths to witches. Implying wild goose chases. Why oh why would you protect sociopaths? Hmmmmmm

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Any discrediting attempted by me is against the pseudoscience of sociopathy, but that is not a witch hunt for the study of sociopathy is not a witch ... but a duck.
Quack, quack.

Indeed quack quack....

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To complete the thought, I do not discredit sociopathy itself. I recognize sociopathy for what it is ... the evil expression of man's nature.

Your in a paradox zook, you contradict yourself constantly. Here you agree sociopathy exist and its an expression of man. Then why ole boy would you not study it? Identifying sociopathy is inherent in our species, a child could do it. But for some reason and coincidentally we cannot organize to identify it and disqualify it. Hmmmmmmm

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Sociopathy is a subset of the study of the soul.

Why are you trying to obfuscate a very real, tangible, problem?

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socially-engineered ignorance.

True, but what behavior is driving this machine?

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Enter the pursuit of awareness

Zionist bankers?

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is an attack waged by charlatans against the momentum of awareness.

Fascinating...

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Psychology is the study of the soul. Psychiatry is the healing/treatment of the soul.

You don't need to get mystical with it Zook. Its the study of human behavior.


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Etymology
The word psychology literally means, "study of the soul" (ψυχή psukhē, "breath, spirit, soul" and -λογία -logia, "study of" or "research").[10] The Latin word psychologia was first used by the Croatian humanist and Latinist Marko Marulić in his book, Psichiologia de ratione animae humanae in the late 15th century or early 16th century.[11] The earliest known reference to the word psychology in English was by Steven Blankaart in 1694 in The Physical Dictionary which refers to "Anatomy, which treats of the Body, and Psychology, which treats of the Soul."[12]
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Nothing mystical about etymology.

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The study of sociopathy is a subdiscipline of psychology

If people new the prevalence of sociopathy this statement would absolutely be false.


Your opinions are not a good substitute for actual meanings of terms.

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identification is the soapy slope to elimination

You keep trying to disqualify the inquiry to identify the most pressing danger to our species. Why do you do this? The first thought is pure vanity or you are inexperienced on how life works and are lost.


Not disqualify it. Quite the opposite, I want better science on the subject of general sociopathy. I also recognize that imminence is with secretive, organized, fiat-money sociopaths ... not with general sociopathy (which is already here and has been here for millennia). Imminence informs priority. You and Chico have perverted priorities.

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it is practically effortless to make the charge of sociopathy and virtually unnecessary to have to try and prove it

See whats in front of your face first Zook before concluding what you see down the line. Even in this very post I am pointing out your lack of awareness in the behaviors of sociopathy, which tells that you carry that very trait. Its very interesting to say the least and I am doing this just by inquiry. So, even though there is not a scientific plan organized, one with eyes can see a scientific pattern in how to disqualify sociopathy. Thanks for your help!


The opinion of charlatans is what it is ... noise against the signal. You, Sir Mags, are practicing charlatanry each time you hurl the reckless charge of sociopathy without consideration for its accuracy. I've already posited my argument that sociopaths and nonsociopaths share most behaviors ... that the difference is of intensity, of frequency, and/or of nature. Threshold behaviors identify sociopaths, not behaviors per se. It amazes me that you and Chico continue to make and defend unsound arguments even when the failed logic is pointed out to you. But not really, after all, the fifth column has bigger purpose than the quality of reasoning.

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mob wandered into the proximity of rope and oak trees. And that ... is swift and abiding eugenics.

You keep missing this point Zook. There is no murder here, its disqualification from places of power, which you project as eugenics, rather then seeing self defense, when sociopaths are applying Eugenics in the meantime. Fascinating stuff ole chap... You are, wether unbeknownst, aligning with current sociopathy.


There was also no murder in psychiatric institutions either ... until the corpses started to pile up and people started noticing.

As for alignment, your contributions on this burp of a forum have been nothing short of apologia on behalf of the bankster pyramid, its psychological operators and operations, and its executive branch of sociopaths, e.g the Talmudists ... whose representation in the executive far exceeds their representation in the general population. The secretive, fiat-money, organized sociopaths of the executive are being identified at marginally accelerating speed, as we speak, but are nonetheless being identified. It is more than a bit curious that you would take issue with the identification of the specific sociopaths of the executive (who mastermind the global corruptions) ... even as you claim from the other side of your mouth that sociopaths need to be identified and disqualified from the executive. Your illogical mind offers us a glimpse into tactics of the fifth column. And we thank you for it.

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You're the one attempting to identify witches with your incessant ridiculous shouts of sociopathy

Incredible stuff Zook. Comparing sociopaths to witches. Implying wild goose chases. Why oh why would you protect sociopaths? Hmmmmmm


Contriving charges and conducting phony inquiries is a poor substitute for rational argument. In the above, you demonstrate piss poor comprehension skills. I never compared sociopaths to witches. Read again. I compared the study of sociopathy to quackery.

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Any discrediting attempted by me is against the pseudoscience of sociopathy, but that is not a witch hunt for the study of sociopathy is not a witch ... but a duck.
Quack, quack.

Indeed quack quack....


Indeed. Now go back up a paragraph and see if you understand even now. It's never too late to understand.

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To complete the thought, I do not discredit sociopathy itself. I recognize sociopathy for what it is ... the evil expression of man's nature.

Your in a paradox zook, you contradict yourself constantly. Here you agree sociopathy exist and its an expression of man.


Indeed, it does. General sociopathy is all around us and is far too common for any empath's liking.

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Then why ole boy would you not study it? Identifying sociopathy is inherent in our species, a child could do it. But for some reason and coincidentally we cannot organize to identify it and disqualify it. Hmmmmmmm


Yes, even a child could do it. True enough. Of course, earlier in the debate you and Chico both claimed that only specialists and experts could identify sociopaths. Confused? Or selective?

As for studying it, I've already stated time and again that it has been studied ad nauseam for millennia. Great literature abounds with the study. The study of sociopathy did not begin with soft science (corrupted by establishment carrots) ... and it will not end with soft science (corrupted by establishment carrots). It began with people in local communities; became further informed with the minds of the greatest writers that ever lived; been added to by turnip trucks of soft science; and will undoubtedly be contributed to further in the decades and centuries to come. The battle between good and evil is not a 90-minute scrimmage on a soccer pitch.

As for organizing to identify and disqualify it ... one cannot logically disqualify something that exists in degree in all of us who compose human society. In short, human society is a combination of sociopaths and empaths, each in degrees across a distribution of behaviors. Good luck in arranging things that only the good are allowed at the top. But that's an effort for the future. The present is already here and it has a surfeit of evil at the top.

Indeed, truthseeking and the push for critical awareness is all about identifying those that are responsible for the global design and corruptions ... so that disqualification will follow further on down the road. That said, you and Chico have done a lot to discredit truthseekers and promote the liars and deceivers in legion (e.g. Assange, Kokesh, Snowden, Ruppert, Palast, etc.). The archives hold it.

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Sociopathy is a subset of the study of the soul.

Why are you trying to obfuscate a very real, tangible, problem?


Clarifying terms is a first step in understanding the problem. The obfuscators are those that oppose clarity. You are clearly opposing clarity.

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socially-engineered ignorance.

True, but what behavior is driving this machine?


What is being done is more important then why it is being done. It doesn't matter why a man is hitting a woman, it matters that we stop it first. Then later - removed from the immediacy - we can spend some resources in trying to understand it. Let's first stop FSD and the organized sociopaths that are leading it, e.g. the Talmudists ... then we can spend time trying to understand why and how they did it.

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Enter the pursuit of awareness

Zionist bankers?
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is an attack waged by charlatans against the momentum of awareness.

Fascinating...


The Zionist banksters are the specific organized, secretive, fiat-funded sociopaths that we all need to be aware
of. And here you are making light of that fact ... fifth column follies, perhaps??

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Psychology is the study of the soul. Psychiatry is the healing/treatment of the soul.

Wow! What an eye-opening post, Zook. I never realized that you don't have a clue of what you are talking about. You've never studied psychology, have you. You are just a master of BS, a record player that remixes and regurgitates what you've read before in the forums or on the Internet that sounded authoritative. Now I understand why you have dismissed just about every whistle-blower that comes up for discussion, why your 9/11 litmus test is so rigid, why your reasoning has no coherence, why you claim such certainty, and why you worship your own discernment. You just don't have a clue. Everything really is just a game of deception and manipulation to you. You don't give a crap about pursuing the truth. All you care about is winning the game. You are more of a sociopath than I ever realized.

What exactly is your educational background, anyway? I address the same question to Andy. At what grade did you leave the school system, and in what country?

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UncleZook wrote:
Psychology is the study of the soul. Psychiatry is the healing/treatment of the soul.

Wow! What an eye-opening post, Zook. I never realized that you don't have a clue of what you are talking about. You've never studied psychology, have you. You are just a master of BS, a record player that remixes and regurgitates what you've read before in the forums or on the Internet that sounded authoritative.

I couldn't disagree more with these comments and this clearly shows it's in fact you that doesn't "have a clue", not UncleZook!

You're not even aware that a "psychopath and sociopath" are just labels from different era's describing the same thing!!!

Your mastery of BS, regurgitated remixes are well documented here and other forums for all to see, it didn't take the members at the Quark forum to see through your charade and run you out now did it?

You couldn't even explain some basic software programing terms there, which like Sociopathy you also claimed to be an expert in!!!

You are a charlatan and a fraud who's only claim to fame is the ability to continue this even after being so totally defrocked, but then who even reads this pathetic little forum anyways.


What exactly is your educational background, anyway? I address the same question to Andy. At what grade did you leave the school system, and in what country?

:lol: I understand you're out of your depth, but you've outdone yourself with these latest barrow scrapings! :lol:

I see your still refusing to answer the majority of questions put to you, which again I point out as "very odd" considering the level of "truth-seeking" you claim to have. In fact I'm still waiting for you to point out the lies in the "classic propaganda piece" documentary I posted!

Why is this Chicodoodoo?

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Psychology is the study of the soul. Psychiatry is the healing/treatment of the soul.

Wow! What an eye-opening post, Zook. I never realized that you don't have a clue of what you are talking about. You've never studied psychology, have you. You are just a master of BS, a record player that remixes and regurgitates what you've read before in the forums or on the Internet that sounded authoritative. Now I understand why you have dismissed just about every whistle-blower that comes up for discussion, why your 9/11 litmus test is so rigid, why your reasoning has no coherence, why you claim such certainty, and why you worship your own discernment. You just don't have a clue. Everything really is just a game of deception and manipulation to you. You don't give a crap about pursuing the truth. All you care about is winning the game. You are more of a sociopath than I ever realized.

What exactly is your educational background, anyway? I address the same question to Andy. At what grade did you leave the school system, and in what country?


Nice ad hominem attack. That said, let's keep the discussion real and beyond your flights of fancy. It all starts with the meaning of terms, Cupid. So dispute the origins of the meaning of psychology (e.g. a study of the soul) ... and the meaning of psychiatry (e.g. a treatment of the soul) ... and if you can't dispute it, then do the intellectually honest thing and recognize the soft science nature of research endeavoring to understand the soul, and of treatment endeavoring to cure the soul.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology#Etymology

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Etymology

The word psychology literally means, "study of the soul" (ψυχή psukhē, "breath, spirit, soul" and -λογία -logia, "study of" or "research").[10] The Latin word psychologia was first used by the Croatian humanist and Latinist Marko Marulić in his book, Psichiologia de ratione animae humanae in the late 15th century or early 16th century.[11] The earliest known reference to the word psychology in English was by Steven Blankaart in 1694 in The Physical Dictionary which refers to "Anatomy, which treats of the Body, and Psychology, which treats of the Soul."[12]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry

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Psychiatry is the medical specialty devoted to the study, diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of mental disorders, among which are affective, behavioural, cognitive and perceptual abnormalities. The term "psychiatry" was first coined by the German physician Johann Christian Reil in 1808 and literally means the 'medical treatment of the soul' (psych- "soul" from Ancient Greek psykhē "soul"; -iatry "medical treatment" from Gk. iātrikos "medical" from iāsthai "to heal").
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Your very strange zook. How can you not think the study of the soul as not vague? Again you contradict yourself. Let me explain. In one hand your disqualifying sociopathy as a soft science, then you use Etymology as a hard science. Then you create narrative swaying the point of sociopathy all together like some ping pong ball between the polar opposites that bring no synthesis, since their contradictions. You keep people unaware of this by dramatizing and trigger emotional responses to get acknowledgement. A nasty play. So you start your argument with one hand then you finish the argument with the other. Each one compartmentalized due to the apparent contradiction which you my friend are unaware of. So, you process your denial unconsciously as exhibited by your very narrative and it's mean, down right fraudulent, and full of shit!

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Your opinions are not a good substitute for actual meanings of terms.

Very interesting....

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not with general sociopathy

Even taking your opinion on the Talmud conspiracy, can you not see how that system has created, literally, trickledown sociopathy. This has infected our normality. The very pattern of money, political and social norms have convinced people this is normal, or natural evolution. This is elementary, but yet you dismiss this entire area. I am not sure why your are missing this entire dimension of thought, but I am afraid it has to do with the mind control of our species. I am sorry.

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The opinion of charlatans is what it is ... noise against the signal.

Fascinating....

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that the difference is of intensity, of frequency, and/or of nature.

Perhaps if you expound this context, you will see your obvious contradictions and change course. I am not holding my breath...

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Threshold behaviors identify sociopaths, not behaviors per se

:lol: There you see it and then you don't. :lol:

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It amazes me that you and Chico continue to make and defend unsound arguments

This is good stuff zook. We should sell tickets...

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the fifth column has bigger purpose than the quality of reasoning.

This is fascinating stuff zook. You just default on this position to justify your insanity. Like old yeller or something. Your imaginary friend? Your ace in the hole? What it is, is your inability to actually "know" your foundation creates contradictions in your thinking. Good stuff zook. This is what plagues our species. No time to think..

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There was also no murder in psychiatric institutions either

Interesting, you use the corruptive part of psychology and project that on to me to further justify your point. Those emotional games you play. I am still asking from a few posts ago, that I don't think you or Andy can explain what is bad or good from psychology. You hedge your bets because you don't know what sociopathy is. This is core psyche stuff, reacting with defensive systems to defend your illegitimate thinking unconsciously. This also plagues our species... Bottom line, you do not know how sociopathy is affecting our species and your creating a Con to justify this position. What kind of man would do that?


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your contributions on this burp of a forum have been nothing short of apologia on behalf of the bankster pyramid, its psychological operators and operations, and its executive branch of sociopaths, e.g the Talmudists


:lol: Now thats a witch hunt :shock:

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whose representation in the executive far exceeds their representation in the general population.

Your living in a fantasy land Zook. You don't know whats happening with the people. Im betting you have limited experience with it. Perhaps your sickness is due to the virtual world your in? Your definitely missing this component of human relations. How the general population is being decimated, mutated and riddled with mental illness.

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you would take issue with the identification of the specific sociopaths of the executive

Your so full of shit Zook. I have told you many times to create your Talmud conspiracy thread, but you never do. And then you use this frame up to character assassinate me. Thats not very honest and down right sneaky. Hmmm I wonder who does that type of stuff?

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you demonstrate piss poor comprehension skills. I never compared sociopaths to witches. Read again. I compared the study of sociopathy to quackery.

Incredible stuff Zook. Is their a difference between quackery and witches? You think my rationale is piss poor because I continue to point out your contradictory dream world your in where you time travel, teleport like some drunken dimwitted leprechaun protecting his pot of gold.

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General sociopathy is all around us and is far too common for any empath's liking.

What are you even saying here? You agree general sociopathy is all around us? You were just disqualifying it, less even mentioning that empathy has to do with it. Now you just creep it into your thinking out of nowhere and agree to the very thing Chic has been saying. Then you discredit Chic and myself with your next breath. This is very serious problem Zook and I suspect a window into our species problem with socioopathy.

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only specialists and experts could identify sociopaths

Your such a con artist. You become literal when its convenient for you then you become so subjective like your study of the soul the next breath. You are a fool..

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The battle between good and evil is not a 90-minute scrimmage on a soccer pitch.

Wow, only a sociopath could say such a thing about such a war with our species.

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one cannot logically disqualify something that exists in degree in all of us who compose human society.

Why would you try to disqualify this inquiry? I keep asking this question to you so hopefully you can develop some insight into your dismissal.

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The archives hold it.

What the archives hold is your form of extrapolation which will help etymology understand how the human species deceives itself.

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You are clearly opposing clarity.

Of course you would say that....

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What is being done is more important then why it is being done.

Both are important you fool. You dismissing and entire dimension of the problem is treacherous, deceitful, and a lie...

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Let's first stop FSD and the organized sociopaths that are leading it

You are not able to imagine how identifying sociopathy will stop the tip of the spear of evil, because you can't grasp its nature. And furthermore you stop people from trying...

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I couldn't disagree more with these comments and this clearly shows it's in fact you that doesn't "have a clue", not UncleZook!

Didn't I say you have no choice but to ally yourself with UncleZook?

andywight wrote:
You're not even aware that a "psychopath and sociopath" are just labels from different era's describing the same thing!!!

I'm not sure how many times I've described the history of how sociopaths are labeled, from "the morally insane" to psychopath (which Hollywood redefined) to sociopath and now to the ridiculous title of Antisocial Personality Disorder (another redefinition by the sociopaths that control psychiatry). But clearly, you haven't been paying attention to make such a dim-witted statement.

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Your mastery of BS, regurgitated remixes are well documented here and other forums for all to see, it didn't take the members at the Quark forum to see through your charade and run you out now did it?

You can twist history and shout it out almost as well as Zook, Andy! You must be trying to get on Zook's good side. Perhaps you are aiming to become UncleZook's sidekick?

andywight wrote:
You couldn't even explain some basic software programing terms there, which like Sociopathy you also claimed to be an expert in!!!

You will say anything to character assassinate the victim you are stalking. Where's the proof of your accusations?

andywight wrote:
You are a charlatan and a fraud who's only claim to fame is the ability to continue this even after being so totally defrocked, but then who even reads this pathetic little forum anyways.

Name-calling, character assassination, false accusations, visciousness, game-playing, repetitive behavior, obfuscation -- you behave exactly like a sociopath, Andy. And you sure go to a great deal of effort to do all that in a pathetic little forum that no one reads. What normal person would do that?

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What exactly is your educational background, anyway? I address the same question to Andy. At what grade did you leave the school system, and in what country?

:lol: I understand you're out of your depth, but you've outdone yourself with these latest barrow scrapings! :lol:

I can tell by the way you project your inadequacies onto me that this is a subject of some discomfort for you. You obviously don't want to reveal your educational background. Why is that, Andy?

andywight wrote:
I see your still refusing to answer the majority of questions put to you, which again I point out as "very odd" considering the level of "truth-seeking" you claim to have. In fact I'm still waiting for you to point out the lies in the "classic propaganda piece" documentary I posted! Why is this Chicodoodoo?

You're going to wait for as long as I desire, my poor Andy. I'm not leaping into the clever little traps your game-playing sociopathic mind creates. This is the same strategy you always use. It's the strategy of: "Oh yeah, well answer this!" And Andy will find no answer acceptable, and not answering is conceding defeat. It's a setup, a con-game. You know what kind of people are con-artists, don't you Andy?

Yes, you do know. Sociopaths.

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Nice ad hominem attack.

It's becoming obvious, Zook, that you dismiss all of my observations and descriptions of your behavior as ad hominem attacks. What was that you were saying earlier about the frequency, intensity, and nature of certain behaviors?

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So dispute the origins of the meaning of psychology (e.g. a study of the soul) ... and the meaning of psychiatry (e.g. a treatment of the soul) ... and if you can't dispute it, then do the intellectually honest thing and recognize the soft science nature of research endeavoring to understand the soul, and of treatment endeavoring to cure the soul.

You use the same strategy as Andy -- "Oh yeah, well explain this!"

Of course I noticed what you were doing by defining psychology according to the entymology of the word. The entymology of the word does not necessarily determine its current definition, and this is the case with both psychology and psychiatry. That's why it was so obvious to me that you've never studied psychology and don't really have a clue what you are talking about.

Think back on those classic psychology experiments that have been used by me and misused by you right here in this forum -- the Milgram experiment and the Asch experiment. Were they about measuring the mind or the soul? No, not at all. They were about measuring behavior. Psychology is the study of behavior, not the mind and certainly not the soul. But how could you possibly know that if you never had even a few courses in psychology? Everything you know about psychology is the product of some quick Google searches made over the past few days. Granted, that's more than Andy knows, but I certainly wouldn't be resting on those laurels, if I were you.

And I note that you, like Andy, have not revealed your educational background either, Zook. Why won't you tell us?

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UncleZook wrote:
Nice ad hominem attack.

It's becoming obvious, Zook, that you dismiss all of my observations and descriptions of your behavior as ad hominem attacks. What was that you were saying earlier about the frequency, intensity, and nature of certain behaviors?

Your observations and descriptions of my behavior have no merit. Hate to be blunt about it, Chico.

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So dispute the origins of the meaning of psychology (e.g. a study of the soul) ... and the meaning of psychiatry (e.g. a treatment of the soul) ... and if you can't dispute it, then do the intellectually honest thing and recognize the soft science nature of research endeavoring to understand the soul, and of treatment endeavoring to cure the soul.

You use the same strategy as Andy -- "Oh yeah, well explain this!"

Not exactly. I don't ask you to explain anything. I want you to dispute the given explanation if you are able to.

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Of course I noticed what you were doing by defining psychology according to the entymology of the word. The entymology of the word does not necessarily determine its current definition, and this is the case with both psychology and psychiatry. That's why it was so obvious to me that you've never studied psychology and don't really have a clue what you are talking about.


You misspelled etymology twice. Why is that important here? Because it shows that you have little care for the preciseness of meaning. Whether it be the definition of the term psychology; the definition of the coinage and con behind the meaning of Jew; or even a definition of the fluxing definition of words itself, etymology ... you have no regard for the preciseness of meaning.

Indeed, there is a word called entomology, the study of insects. And there is a word called etymology, the study of the origins of words and the evolution of their meaning over time. Poor spelling (as opposed to spelling typos) is symptomatic of a larger difficulty with the language. The propagation of error is a virtual certainty when one confuses words, their spellings and their meanings. Keep this in mind.

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Think back on those classic psychology experiments that have been used by me and misused by you right here in this forum -- the Milgram experiment and the Asch experiment. Were they about measuring the mind or the soul? No, not at all. They were about measuring behavior.


Yes, which is why those experiments have some degree of validity. Behavior is observable.

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Psychology is the study of behavior, not the mind and certainly not the soul. But how could you possibly know that if you never had even a few courses in psychology? Everything you know about psychology is the product of some quick Google searches made over the past few days. Granted, that's more than Andy knows, but I certainly wouldn't be resting on those laurels, if I were you.


Psychology is the study of the soul. The evolution of the field has appended to the original meaning, but it has not supplanted it. True psychology remains a study of the soul as measured by an individual's behavior ... not a study of behavior for any other purpose. The very fact that the study of an individual's behavior is being used for other purposes (e.g. collective purposes like the Asch and Milgram experiments, even Pavlov's pups) exposes the corruption in the field of psychology. Those experiments rightfully belong to the field of sociology. But those leading the corruption get around the preciseness of meaning by expanding the original coinage and meaning of psychology to hybrid terms like "social psychology". But that's a contrived evolution of the original meaning, for there is no natural bridge between the study of the soul ... and the study of the collective.

Note the difference between psychology's original charter and pursuit and its modern detours ... and be apprised about the importance of preciseness in the meaning of terms.

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And I note that you, like Andy, have not revealed your educational background either, Zook. Why won't you tell us?


Stay tuned. I'll expose my knowledgebase as the thread evolves. And you'll likewise expose yours. And we will both be judged on our respective merits, as it should be. When all is said and done, your request for the educational background of your debate opponents will be seen for what it is ... a desperate argument by fallacious appeal to authority.


Pax

ps: To indulge your silly question, let me just say this ... I had never taken a single psychology course in my life (AFAIK). Considered it to be too artsy and lacking the scientific rigor that my brain craves. What I do know about human psychology is mainly from my experiential wisdom (of observing people); the popular culture; and of course, with the advent of Google, whatever specifics I care to study on the vast soft pastures of psychology. Unlike you, Chico, I don't run from questions ... I punch 'em in the nose and watch them fall to the canvass. Then I hover over them to see if they have the guts to stand up again.
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