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The sneaky disarming of America 
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Its interesting in general, that the argument between a conspiracy theorist and a pragmatist, is similar to a scientist and an occultist.
If I may be so bold...

I appreciate your boldness, and I tend to agree with everything in your post. Basically, I think we all tend to believe in the conspiratorial view of history here at UP, and even on the other forums that many of us have been banned from. The more you research conspiracy, the more convincing evidence you find, so there must be a good amount of truth therein.

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There is no doubt in my mind, that they have created another civil war. All the pieces are set. The quick catalyst will be the poor on welfare. Once that is lit all hell is going to break loose. Para militarism at its finest. Never before since the Nazis in WW2 will we see such a fascist gestapo at work with impunity.

All the legislation is set, the infrastructure built and the armies to carry it out.

I wonder what they will call this Tea Party in the future...

This is the unmistakeable fact of our sociopathic technocratic society. We have a gun to our heads....
All your hierarchy of needs have been hijacked and terrorized. And we know not of it.

Power, water, food, safety, money, family, freedom...............Liberty?

We dont know were all slaves. How could we even talk liberty?

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Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:24 am
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We dont know were all slaves. How could we even talk liberty?

Because some of us do know we're slaves. And that is precisely where you will find the most genuine talk of liberty.

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Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:34 am
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The control is pervasive, even in Germany.

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Recently a police department caught a German Bilderberger (Zumwinkel) for tax evasion. The department was dissolved, the investigators dismissed and the superior was declared mentally incompetent.

One Generalbundesanwalt (chief prosecutor) was dissatisfied with terror investigations being called off whenever involvement of “foreign intelligence services” came into the picture. The good man was then shot in his car by a motorcyclist.

The above quote is from "german January 6, 2013 @ 5:41 pm" in the comments to this video about the Sandy Hook shootings by Brother Nathanael. The inconsistencies and deceptive manipulations related to that news event (the fourth in a string of "shock and awe" public shootings) are the tip-off of a con-game being played on the gullible public who believe anything the television god tells them.

The gun control agenda is being rolled out with all the psychological icing possible to make the cake look appetizing. Here, the mind of a child that knows nothing about ruling sociopaths, political deception, mind control, propaganda, or tyranny is the one that makes the appeal to the savior Obama for the "solution" as described in the classic sociopath strategy called "problem, reaction, solution".

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My daughter Natalie was interested in asking him (Obama) if he could pass some kind of legislation so that the only people that had guns were military personnel and law enforcement. And if people needed guns for sport that they could go to a range and the guns would have to stay there. -- source

As your heart swells and you wipe away your tears like Obama pretends to do on camera, stop to investigate if you are being deceived and manipulated. The evidence that you are is persuasive, despite all the active attempts to suppress it.

I wonder how this father would react if he knew the real truth about who killed his son. I bet he'd be digging out his gun to go visit Obama a second time.

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Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:58 pm
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Heck, they got away with 9/11. What's a little school shooting to them? Who needs proof that the Sandy Hook shootings happened like they said? The word of the authorities and the mainstream media is all the "proof" they feel is necessary. It worked with 9/11, and it will work with this series of orchestrated public shootings that they are rolling out for us, unless the public pulls their heads out of the sand.

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Here is the blog from James F. Tracy PhD, Associate Professor of Media Studies at Florida Atlantic University.
This is the link to a timeline of the Sandy Hook shootings. This guy is under a shit storm of criticism now.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/06/sa ... -timeline/

Prof. James Tracy: The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information _on The Kevin Barrett Show
http://noliesradio.org/archives/55640

The ministry of truth is amazing period.

I figure its a win win situation with whatever BS they put out there.
Win they curtail the narrative to support their agenda and win the people who dont buy it disassociate themselves from the conglomerate and become its enemy.

I would compare this dynamic to a cult or a family dynamic. A civil war is a coming...

We are being herded...

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Thought this was good from Alien Scientist.
http://www.alienscientist.com/assassins.html

Assassination Conspiracies

List of Deaths

Date Name Connection with case Cause of death
11/63 Karyn Kupicinet Tv host's daughter who was overheard telling of JFK's death prior to 11/22/63 Murdered
12/63 Jack Zangretti Expressed foreknowledge of Ruby shooting Oswald Gunshot Victim
2/64 Eddy Benavides Lookalike brother to Tippit shooting witness, Domingo Benavides Gunshot to head
2/64 Betty MacDonald* Former Ruby employee who alibied Warren Reynolds shooting suspect. Suicide byhanging in Dallas Jail
3/64 Bill Chesher Thought to have information linking Oswald and Ruby Heart attack
3/64 Hank Killam* Husband of Ruby employee, knew Oswald acquaintance Throat cut
4/64 Bill Hunter* Reporter who was in Ruby's apartment on 11/24/63 Accidental shooting by policeman
5/64 Gary Underhill* CIA agent who claimed Agency was involved Gunshot in head ruled suicide
5/64 Hugh Ward* Private investigator working with Guy Banister and David Ferrie Plane crash in Mexico
5/64 DeLesseps Morrison* New Orleans Mayor Passenger in Ward's plane
8/64 Teresa Norton* Ruby employee Fatally shot
6/64 Guy Banister* x-FBI agent in New Orleans connected to Ferrie, CIA, Carlos Marcello & Oswald Heart attack
9/64 Jim Koethe* Reporter who was in Ruby's apartment on 11/24/63 Blow to neck
9/64 C.D. Jackson "Life" magazine senior Vicepresident who bought Zapruderfilm and locked it away Unknown
10/64 Mary Pinchot JFK "special" friend whose diary was taken by CIA chief James Angleton after her death Murdered
1/65 Paul Mandal "Life" writer who told of JFK turning to rear when shot in throat Cancer
3/65 Tom Howard* Ruby's first lawyer, was in Ruby's apartment on 11/24/63 Heart attack
5/65 Maurice Gatlin* Pilot for Guy Banister Fatal fall
8/65 Mona B. Saenz* Texas Employment clerk who interviewed Oswald Hit by Dallas bus
?/65 David Goldstein Dallasite who helped FBI trace Oswald's pistol Natural causes
9/65 Rose Cheramie* Knew of assassination in advance, told of riding to Dallas with Cubans Hit/run victim
11/65 Dorothy Kilgallen* Columnist who had private interview with Ruby, pledged to "break" JFK case Drug overdose
11/65 Mrs. Earl Smith* Close friend to Dorothy Kilgallen, died two daysafter columnist, may have kept Kilgallen's notes Cause unknown
12/65 William Whaley* Cab driver who reportedly drove Oswald to Oak Cliff (The only Dallas taxi driver to die on duty) Motor collision
1966 Judge Joe Brown Presided over Ruby's trial Heart attack
1966 Karen "Little Lynn" Carlin* Ruby employee who last talked with Ruby before Oswald shooting Gunshot victim
1/66 Earlene Roberts Oswald's landlady Heart attack
2/66 Albert Bogard* Car salesman who said Oswald test drove new car Suicide
6/66 Capt. Frank Martin Dallas policeman who witnessed Oswald slaying, told Warren Commission "there's a lot to be said but probably be better if I don't say it" Sudden cancer
8/66 Lee Bowers Jr.* Witnessed men behind picket fence on Grassy Knoll Motor accident
9/66 Marilyn "Delila Walle* Ruby dancer Shot by husband after 1 month of marriage
10/66 Lt. William Pitzer* JFK autopsy photographer who described his duty as "horrifying experience" Gunshot rule suicided
11/66 Jimmy Levens Fort Worth nightclub owner who hired Ruby employees Natural causes
11/66 James Worrell Jr.* Saw man flee rear of Texas School Book Depository Motor accident
1966 Clarence Oliver Dist. Atty. Investigator who worked Ruby case Unknown
12/66 Hank Suydam Life magazine official in charge of JFK stories Heart attack
1967 Leonard Pullin Civilian Navy employee who helped film "Last Two Days" about assassination One-car crash
1/67 Jack Ruby* Oswald's slayer Lung cancer (he told family he was injected with cancer cells)
2/67 Harold Russell* Saw escape of Tippit killer killed by cop in bar brawl
2/67 David Ferrie* Acquaintance of Oswald, Garrison suspect and employee of Guy Banister Blow to neck (ruled accidental)
2/67 Eladio Del Valle* Anti-Castro Cuban associate of David Ferrie being sought by Garrison Gunshot wound, ax wound tohead
3/67 Dr. Mary Sherman* Ferrie associate working on cancer research Died in fire (possibly shot)
1/68 A. D. Bowie Asst. Dallas District Attorney prosecuting Ruby Cancer
4/68 Hiram Ingram Dallas Deputy Sheriff, close friend to Roger Craig Sudden cancer
5/68 Dr. Nicholas Chetta New Orleans coroner who on death of Ferrie Heart attack
8/68 Philip Geraci* Friend of Perry Russo, told of Oswald/Shaw conversation Electrocution
1/69 Henry Delaune* Brother-in-law to coroner Chetta Murdered
1/69 E.R. Walthers* Dallas Deputy Sheriff who was involved in Depository search, claimed to have found .45-cal. slug Shot by felon
1969 Charles Mentesana Filmed rifle other than Mannlicher-Carcano being taken from Depository Heart attack
4/69 Mary Bledsoe Neighbor to Oswald, also knew David Ferrie Natural causes
4/69 John Crawford* Close friend to both Ruby and Wesley Frazier, who gave ride to Oswald on 11/22/63 Crash of private plane
7/69 Rev. Clyde Johnson* Scheduled to testify about Clay Shaw/Oswald connection Fatally shot
1970 George McGann* Underworld figure connected to Ruby friends, wife, Beverly, took film in Dealey Plaza Murdered
1/70 Darrell W. Garner Arrested for shooting Warren Reynolds, released after alibi from Betty MacDonald Drug overdose
8/70 Bill Decker Dallas Sheriff who saw bullet hit street in front of JFK Natural causes
8/70 Abraham Zapruder Took famous film of JFK assassination Natural causes
12/70 Salvatore Granello* Mobster linked to both Hoffa,Trafficante, and Castro assassination plots Murdered
1971 James Plumeri* Mobster tied to mob-CIA assassination plots Murdered
3/71 Clayton Fowler Ruby's chief defense attorney Uknown
4/71 Gen. Charles Cabell* CIA deputy director connected to anti-Castro Cubans Collapsed and died afterphysical at Fort Myers
1972 Hale Boggs* House Majority Leader, member of Warren Commission who began to publicly express doubts about findings Disappeared on Alaskan plane flight
5/72 J. Edgar Hoover* FBI director who pushed "lone assassin" theory in JFK assassination Heart attack (no autopsy)
9/73 Thomas E. Davis* Gunrunner connected to both Ruby and CIA Electrocuted trying to steal wire
2/74 J.A. Milteer* Miami right-winger who predicted JFK's death and capture of scapegoat Heater explosion
1974 Dave Yaras* Close friend to both Hoffa and Jack Ruby Murdered
7/74 Earl Warren Chief Justice who reluctantly chaired Warren Commission Heart failure
8/74 Clay Shaw* Prime suspect in Garrison case, reportedly a CIA contact with Ferrie and E. Howard Hunt Possible cancer
1974 Earle Cabell Mayor of Dallas on 11/22/63, whose brother, Gen. Charles Cabell was fired from CIA by JFK Natural causes
6/75 Sam Giancana* Chicago Mafia boss slated to tell about CIA-mob death plots to Senate Committee Murdered
7/75 Clyde Tolson J. Edgar Hoover's assistant and roommate Natural causes
1975 Allen Sweatt Dallas Deputy Sheriff involved in investigation Natural causes
12/75 Gen. Earle Wheeler Contact between JFK and CIA Unknown
1976 Ralph Paul Ruby's business partner connected with crime figures Heart attack
4/76 James Chaney Dallas motorcycle officer riding to JFK's right rear who said JFK "struck in the face" with bullet Heart attack
4/76 Dr. Charles Gregory Governor John Connally's physician Heart attack
6/76 William Harvey* CIA coordinator for CIA-mob assassination plans against Castro Complications from heart surgery
7/76 John Roselli* Mobster who testified to Senate Committee and was to appear again Stabbed and stuffed in metal drum

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All of these orchestrated shooting tragedies are mini 9/11 false-flag events. The same operational procedures are used -- "shock and awe" emotional manipulation, quick clean-up of the evidence, controlled media reporting, information scripting and suppression, "problem, reaction, solution" agenda, conflicting eye-witness testimony, active disinformation, pre-existing parallel government policy alignment, etc.

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You should wright a book on the science of it....

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